Ridley Scott’s ‘The Martian’

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Scientific accuracy aside, it took too long for Interstellar to rev up, and that ending came out of fukking nowhere. Martian was much tighter. Martians a 8, Interstellars a 6.5, maybe 7 (because of its scope and score).
 

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Enlighten me, because aside from the dust storm, The Martian is pretty grounded in actual science.

What do you want me to say that's not written in the book? Have you even checked out the book? It's a pretty good read.

I didn't say Interstellar was completely scientifically accurate. It used actual concepts and theories on black holes and wormholes. It's gotten praise from the science community. If you want to compare the two movies, The Martian had simple concepts dealing with physics compared to Interstellar. If you're trying to say The Martian is a better movie than Interstellar because it's more scientifically and physically accurate, then I don't even want to try to convince you otherwise because it'd be pointless.

I feel like Interstellar is a better movie story wise and drama wise. If you want to compare The Martian to anything, compare it to Gravity.
 

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the problem with Interstellar was everything was a coincidence and the science was flimsy at best....

Cooper just happens to walk in the space mission at the time they "needed" him.

Everything was a great assumption...the ending was a slap in the face

What the hell was the "problem with gravity" and how did they solve it?....:mjpls:

yet on the Martian...there was an explanation for everything....the science was fascinating and sound.....the stakes were higher...and the characters were actually believable

:what: have you read the actual science behind interstellar?! If you did, you wouldn't be saying such a silly statement.
 

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I just reserved my tickets for tomorrow online, and I decided to check how it was doing against The Walk (which pushed this out of IMAX ahead of its official release date because of some bullshyt theater deal) and if advance reservations are anything to go by, this is completely killing The Walk. :whew:
Weren't you pretty much shytting on this movie before it was released?
 

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Weren't you pretty much shytting on this movie before it was released?

Nah, I was just kinda indifferent about this. But I will take any excuse to shyt on that mediocre-ass looking The Walk though, especially because I will shyt on any movie the homie @FlyRy tries to hype up by default.

Anyway, having seen the movie, it was decent but nothing spectacular. I'll say the humor was refreshing for a Ridley Scott movie because his movies are generally dry and serious as fukk but it really went against all the sciency stuff. I felt this would've worked a lot better if they played it straight, like Primer-straight, because as far as a Hollywoodized 'blockbuster' movie goes, this one doesn't hold up to Interstellar or Gravity one bit, both movies that are certainly flawed but overall and consistently achieve far greater highs than this movie ever comes close to touching. It doesn't really help that instead of building suspense most of the suspenseful situations are played for laughs, with Damon pretty much ribbing throughout the whole movie no-selling the desperateness of his situation. I mean, did you really feel at any point that he was truly as fukked as being stranded on Mars alone would be? I never did.

Finally, normally I'd add at least half a star to a movie's rating for incorporating David Bowie, but the use of Starman during that (weak-ass) montage was so forced pop-culturish that it only reinforced my feelings about Scott increasingly getting out of touch. Save that Guardians Of The Galaxy shyt for Guardians Of The Galaxy.
 
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It was a good movie, had a lot of technical aspects storywise. Also dry and straightforward in terms of atmosphere. But then again, it was a science movie.
 

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Nah, I was just kinda indifferent about this. But I will take any excuse to shyt on that mediocre-ass looking The Walk though, especially because I will shyt on any movie the homie @FlyRy tries to hype up by default.

Anyway, having seen the movie, it was decent but nothing spectacular. I'll say the humor was refreshing for a Ridley Scott movie because his movies are generally dry and serious as fukk but it really went against all the sciency stuff. I felt this would've worked a lot better if they played it straight, like Primer-straight, because as far as a Hollywoodized 'blockbuster' movie goes, this one doesn't hold up to Interstellar or Gravity one bit, both movies that are certainly flawed but overall and consistently achieve far greater highs than this movie ever comes close to touching. It doesn't really help that instead of building suspense most of the suspenseful situations are played for laughs, with Damon pretty much ribbing throughout the whole movie no-selling the desperateness of his situation. I mean, did you really feel at any point that he was truly as fukked as being stranded on Mars alone would be? I never did.

Finally, normally I'd add at least half a star to a movie's rating for incorporating David Bowie, but the use of Starman during that (weak-ass) montage was so forced pop-culturish that it only reinforced my feelings about Scott increasingly getting out of touch. Save that Guardians Of The Galaxy shyt for Guardians Of The Galaxy.
I do agree some of the music choices felt pretty Guardians ish. I'm not sure how much of that is actually in the book though.

What do you give this on the IMDB scale
 

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You mean the science where they make it into the room at the end where he is able to send complex gravitation calculations through an analog watch using morse code?
First off, no one has been to Mars. Everything about a human going to Mars is based on scientific theories. The fact that no human being has made it to Mars is already stretching and put's it in the sci Fi territory. We're looking at what ifs here. Second,
Early in the process, Thorne laid down two guidelines: "First, that nothing would violate established physical laws. Second, that all the wild speculations... would spring from science and not from the fertile mind of a screenwriter."


We're still going with what ifs here, scientific theories. None of this is factual. One film decided to stretch the imagination. But at the end, they are both science fiction.
 
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