Rican HipHop pioneers giving the dates of when they entered/first saw HipHop being done. They were not there from the start by their own admissions!

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Even some white dude from England crushed the goofball on historical Black American cultural elements, where he showed actual recites.
 
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Jamaican who lived in the Bronx, Sound View, speaks on the inception of Hip Hop. (in his point of view). I did direct him to the interviews done by Lord Jamar and Michael WayneTV, because some of the things he claims do not align with what is being said by others on Wayne TV and Lord Jamar. And he too is conflating contribution with creation (creator) / pioneering (pioneer).

 
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:mjlol: shook of some internet dweebs get the fukk out of here

If you want to keep going we can keep going. Like I said ya conveniently dictating when hip hop was born when the name hip hop itself wasn't even created or attached to the culture until 78-79

Latinos in NYC been involved in the culture since day 1, my opinion on that isn't changing

But the guys who were actually there are saying this isn’t true
 

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Black OGs from the Black Spades era (mid to late 1960s and into the 1970s) talking beefing with Puerto Ricans




How can Latinos be founding members of Hip-Hop if there were “boundaries” between us and them? Yet you had influence in our culture? Blacks couldn’t step foot in certain areas because they knew they’d be attacked by Latino gang members
 
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Black OGs from the Black Spades era (mid to late 1960s and into the 1970s) talking beefing with Puerto Ricans



Things appear to have shifted over time and gotten better.

Denisse indirectly touches this subject of anti-Blackness here (she starts at 49:50, but it's timestamped somewhat before):




This is the source she used:

 
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he definetely needs to apologize for saying we get out culture from the carribean


Has he apologized yet? If not he needs to be canceled, which is horrible because he did make some dope stuff with the Leaders Of The New School etc.








 
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