Return of the King - Official UFC 197: Jones vs St. Preux thread. Apr 23

Who Wins?


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Mr.Logic

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He did plenty. Stamina is his biggest weakness and he was fighting on short notice so he had to preserve his energy. Still hit Jones harder than anyone I can remember.
Either we didn't watch the same fight, or we have different definitions of "plenty" or both...
 

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I think he gives a lot of credit for him not getting knocked out
(1) Jones doesn't KO his opponents...He is a grind to submission type of fighter...

(2) I don't give OSP any credit because that was his game plan, hang around for five rounds...He didn't step in the Octagon to win...I gave Chad Mendes credit for at least trying to finish McGregor...I give Diaz credit for finishing McGregor...
 

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Give yair one or two more fights then he got next. His style isnt one where one goes undefeated but its damn fun to watch. Not ready for the top 5 yet but real impressive prospect
 

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Give yair one or two more fights then he got next. His style isnt one where one goes undefeated but its damn fun to watch. Not ready for the top 5 yet but real impressive prospect
Anderson Silva went undefeated for a long time with his "I am open, so hit me" style...
 

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Anderson Silva went undefeated for a long time with his "I am open, so hit me" style...
Yea but im not ready to compare breh to anderson yet. And anderson came up in the barbaric ufc days for the most part where the opponents were still one dimensional fighters at the time
 

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He would get wrecked at heavy. That shyt is all talk

Heavyweight is a garbage weight class full of geriatric fighters. He would annihilate everyone except Werdum (bad style matchup) and maybe Junior. Cormier dominated the UFC and Strikeforce heavyweight division and he's smaller, weaker and slower than Jones. Lol let's not act like all the weight classes are equal talent wise, Roy Nelson is a fat middleweight yet he's consistently top 15.

Who other than Werdum (jiu jitsu + good striking) or Junior (good boxing, massive power and size/reach) is going to wreck him?
 

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Heavyweight is a garbage weight class full of geriatric fighters. He would annihilate everyone except Werdum (bad style matchup) and maybe Junior. Cormier dominated the UFC and Strikeforce heavyweight division and he's smaller, weaker and slower than Jones. Lol let's not act like all the weight classes are equal talent wise, Roy Nelson is a fat middleweight yet he's consistently top 15.

Who other than Werdum (jiu jitsu + good striking) or Junior (good boxing, massive power and size/reach) is going to wreck him?
Cain overeem and even browne will give him legit problems. Breh weight plays a huge issue. Jon maxing out at 240 isnt the same as these brehs naturally weighing in around that weight.
 

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Cain overeem and even browne will give him legit problems. Breh weight plays a huge issue. Jon maxing out at 240 isnt the same as these brehs naturally weighing in around that weight.
most these heavyweights gas out after a round

werdum would be a challenge but there isnt much up there. hes never going up to heavyweight anyways so it really doesnt matter

osp looked like the heavier fighter last night
 

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most these heavyweights gas out after a round

werdum would be a challenge but there isnt much up there. hes never going up to heavyweight anyways so it really doesnt matter

osp looked like the heavier fighter last night
Yeah but whose to say jon wont with the additional weight gain. This isnt just a 10 pound jump this is a legit 40-45 with cain werdum an jds. Reem and travis get up to 260 i believe dont quote me on that tho.
 
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