Retail workers are quitting at record rates for higher-paying work: ‘My life isn’t worth a dead-end

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And this is where you (an elitist prick) and the MAJORITY of America differ. EVERYONE deserves a living wage. Period.




fukking period.

That's unfortunately a Socialist viewpoint, can't rock with that. There isn't anything elite about a construction worker making a living and supporting a comfortable lifestyle, or an RN, or a CPA, all those paths require in-demand skills. Many employ Black folks heartily.

We should be aiming higher, not at the bottom.

Retail had 50 year to raise wages, they aren't, so move out the field, plain and simple.....
 

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Just by you adding ‘grown men’ in your reply makes you a god damn clown. Who the fukk are YOU to say what kind of job a ‘grown man’ should have? Do you read the shyt you type?


You literally went into listing the ‘grown man’ jobs. :gucci:

Maybe because I'm a grown man and know only a real job defines a grown man:dwillhuh:My father and grandfather would look at me crazy for complaining how my clothes folding job doesn't pay the bills.

Expecting to get through on life folding clothes. That says you're lazy.
 

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except of course for CEOs, which you seem fine with.

The decline in wages coincided with a decline in workers rights.

Like I said, you have no idea what’s happened to the American worker but you do applaud the CEOs and owners whose pay has increased. (Hint, that’s one of the places where wages have gone)

You the type of dude that would rather sit down and have dinner with Warren Buffet over $50,000 in cash. :heh:

Companies report record profits, juelz when it comes to paying actual wages for the people that work for them and other people say its the workers fault when they fight against it.

I've seen incentive plans where each exec made in the mid 5 figures (and the CEO getting seven figures) and in the same year the Company gave a temporary $2 raise for "Some" of their employees in order to keep people working:russ:

Bonuses paid out to a small group of people exceeded the temporary increase to wages for some of their employees. :russ:

There's a shyt load of information out there of how these companies finesse their employees, but people just want to hound the employee asking for better pay for their work. Make it make sense:russ:
 

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I've done audits for some grocery stores and read the union manual.

Those guys have been getting paid. I remember looking at a vacation accrual and union workers had 300+ hours of PTO which they can all roll over each year while non union workers could only roll over 80. There's also a bunch of benefits they get that non-union workers don't.

Yet the pundits in management would have you believe that unions are the worst thing in existence and immediately put all efforts into shutting down union talk. It's amazing the psychology used to influence and intimidate people from forming unions.
The Brainwashing over the past 2 or 3 generations is nothing short of incredible. They got people fighting against their own best interest.

In some union jobs, you get night-shift premiums added to your pay, but let these fools tell you "naw, there's no money, you need skills, it can't be done."

Cats are Ridiculous. :mjlol:
 

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That's unfortunately a Socialist viewpoint, can't rock with that. There isn't anything elite about a construction worker making a living and supporting a comfortable lifestyle, or an RN, or a CPA, all those paths require in-demand skills. Many employ Black folks heartily.

We should be aiming higher, not at the bottom.

Retail had 50 year to raise wages, they aren't, so move out the field, plain and simple.....


Ahhh here we go. The socialist word.


You ok with police officers? Postal workers? Libraries? Medicare for the elderly?


I’ll give you one guess what all those establishments are formed from. Now don’t go picking and choosing ‘which’ socialistic programs you’re ok with.

Maybe because I'm a grown man and know only a real job defines a grown man:dwillhuh:My father and grandfather would look at me crazy for complaining how my clothes folding job doesn't pay the bills.

Expecting to get through on life folding clothes. That says you're lazy.


Imagine thinking those jobs you listed were the only ‘grown men’ jobs. I bet if your father and grandfather heard you were in IT.. and not in none of them ‘manly’ jobs.. they’d be just fine with you lying your bills and coming up that way.
 

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It's very bizarre to me how the argument here is, "Retail and fast food are for teenagers and therefore don't need to pay a living wage," but the argument in the thread about red states cutting off UI was, "It's good and people need to go back to work because McDonald's and Chipotle are hiring and nobody's applying."
 

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They can still do that too....What type of pie ass kids y’all raising?

these dudes are weirdos and its no wonder American children can't compete.

All these dudes love capitalism and want to keep dancing around putting bandaids on the system they signed up for. Unless dudes are willing to get into a armed struggle to end capitalism they need to stfu and continue to live their privileged lives where they even have the opportunity to be on the internet fake being militant while people outside of this country are literally dying to produce the smartphones and laptops they rant about the system on.
 

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Maybe because I'm a grown man and know only a real job defines a grown man:dwillhuh:My father and grandfather would look at me crazy for complaining how my clothes folding job doesn't pay the bills.

Expecting to get through on life folding clothes. That says you're lazy.

An adult mind considered this a rational statement.
 

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Ahhh here we go. The socialist word.


You ok with police officers? Postal workers? Libraries? Medicare for the elderly?


I’ll give you one guess what all those establishments are formed from. Now don’t go picking and choosing ‘which’ socialistic programs you’re ok with.




Imagine thinking those jobs you listed were the only ‘grown men’ jobs. I bet if your father and grandfather heard you were in IT.. and not in none of them ‘manly’ jobs.. they’d be just fine with you lying your bills and coming up that way.

IT takes brain smarts and commitment. There's nothing wrong with doing IT to pay all the bills. However, you all think grown folks should get paid $20/hr to fold clothes.
 

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It's very bizarre to me how the argument here is, "Retail and fast food are for teenagers and therefore don't need to pay a living wage," but the argument in the thread about red states cutting off UI was, "It's good and people need to go back to work because McDonald's and Chipotle are hiring and nobody's applying."

From what I see people are conflating arguments.

Retail and Fast-food tend to be for students, but we have grown people who aren't students working these jobs in non leadership roles yet expecting to be able to buy homes and this that and the third.

The second convo is if you are struggling so bad, there are jobs out there if you need money. If you have the ability to say what jobs you will or won't work, are you actually struggling?
 

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IT takes brain smarts and commitment. There's nothing wrong with doing IT to pay all the bills. However, you all think grown folks should get paid $20/hr to fold clothes.

And if I find a way to automate clothes folding for a one time investment of 50k per store I own, and maybe 1-5k in annual maintenance cost. what happens next? lol
 

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An adult mind considered this a rational statement.

It very much so is a rational statement. No man will take you serious expecting to fold clothes for a living. That's how men have always thought, you're the laughing joke of the group.
 

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It's very bizarre to me how the argument here is, "Retail and fast food are for teenagers and therefore don't need to pay a living wage," but the argument in the thread about red states cutting off UI was, "It's good and people need to go back to work because McDonald's and Chipotle are hiring and nobody's applying."

To take it further, it's bizarre how some people argue about retail and fast food being for teenagers and don't need to pay a living wage but restaurants can get away with paying people poverty wages with societal pressure having patrons supplement the workers wages with tips regardless of the employee's performance. American culture around work is extremely strange.
 
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