Rest in Peace DMX April 9th, 2021

[-Quikness-]

one of my best friends i grew up is addicted to coke...we/and his family tried everything for ten years..even got him out the country
eventually his family had to let him go

sad sometimes i would see him roam around downtown looking for next high....
and im like i grew up with this dude, played ball with him
drugs

It’s so hard breh, it tears whole family’s apart.

Like the saying goes you can lead a horse to water but can’t make it drink

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Of course he’s had enablers it’s the only way he couldve been moving that same way for years. And I don’t believe Nore is to blame for X being an addict or relapsing. But if u see a nikka is in rehab. And u make a damn video offering him drinks. Of course people Gonna point to u like “wtf u doin?”. “Why are u supporting this shyt?”. And since nikkas have seen Nore literally try to pressure nikkas to drink up there even when they don’t want to and no matter the reasons they give him. I think nikkas coming at him altho not right should be a wake up call to him to be more responsible with his format and platform in the least.

No doubt. I don’t think Nore deserves too much shyt, but it’s worth it to take a day or two and examine whether it’s a good idea or not to offer drinks and to drink in front of a hardcore addict like X.

I always told friends they shouldn’t feel any pressure to not drink around me after I got clean and sober, but there’s no doubt it makes a difference. I don’t think Nore is under any obligation not to drink in front of X, especially given the name of the show. But at the same time, I think it would’ve been a considerate move to possibly not drink or at least keep it more limited.

I mean even in rehab there are levels to the substance abuse game. I was bad enough to need rehab but I was one of the more tame/lightweight cats in there. I’d classify X as being either in highest tier of hardcore addicts, or at the highest levels of the tier just below it.

 

[re'up]

I don’t blame you. I was a bad addict and I was lucky to only lose one friendship, but it was my best friend. I was upset over it for years. I made amends, did all that. But I’m not even upset about it anymore. I know I was a mess, and not easy to be around.

One of the biggest reasons I hate addiction is because it’s one of those problems that actively hurts everyone in your life. It’s not just like you’re physically ill and your loved ones have to grieve over you. It’s more proactively nasty to prolly that care about you.

I don’t blame anyone that’s close with an addict for whatever decisions they have to do to protect their own mental health as well.

I don't have a lot of outlets for this, so I appreciate the engagement. I'm sober 15 years too, alcohol, and cocaine mostly. This was/is a best friends since we were 15, my running partner basically. He started doing heroin about 5 years ago, and it was such a bizarre, and loathsome thing, even with all my knowledge of sobriety, I just took my distance. Slowly and slowly he got worse, until he was doing it everyday and buying drugs on the street, living just bad. All kinds of recklessness, carrying a gun, smoking meth.

I had pretty much stopped being involved with him, but he got sober last summer, and we started hanging out again, trying to be positive influence, and it worked. Then he spiraled out into paranoia, because he had been secretly doing ketamine everyday for months, I had no idea. He's relapsed on heroin 4 times, and the last time I saw him, I almost put hands on him, because of all the lies. I can't really be a good friend to someone who won't be good to themselves. He thinks he can do every other drug he wants and live a normal life.

 

[Flawdaboi]

A vegetative state occurs when the cerebrum (the part of the brain that controls thought and behavior) no longer functions, but the hypothalamus and brain stem (the parts of the brain that control vital functions, such as sleep cycles, body temperature, breathing, blood pressure, heart rate, and consciousness) continue to function. Thus, people open their eyes and appear awake but otherwise do not respond to stimulation in any meaningful way.
The vegetative state is rare.

• Most commonly, a vegetative state is caused by severe brain damage due to a head injury or a disorder that deprives the brain of oxygen, such as cardiac or respiratory arrest.
  • minimally conscious state. In people in a minimally conscious state, awareness is severely but not completely impaired.
    
• A vegetative state that lasts for more than 1 month is considered a persistent vegetative state. Most people with a persistent vegetative state do not recover any mental function or ability to interact with the environment in a meaningful way. However, a few people with a persistent vegetative state improve enough that the diagnosis is changed to minimally conscious state. In people in a minimally conscious state, awareness is severely but not completely impaired.
  
  When any recovery occurs, the cause was usually brain damage due to a head injury (traumatic brain injury), not a disorder that resulted in the brain being deprived of oxygen. Also, recovery is often very limited. For example, people may reach for any and all objects or may utter the same word over and over. Rarely, people in a persistent vegetative state due to a head injury continue to slowly improve over months to years.
  How many people are in a vegetative state is unknown, but about 25,000 adults and almost 10,000 children in the United States are thought to have this disorder.
  
  

Vegetative State - Brain, Spinal Cord, and Nerve Disorders - MSD Manual Consumer Version.

 

[spliz]

I think he had the same thing Pac had. I liked X, but wasn't the hugest fan. Same with Pac, he's not in my top 5 or 10, but I can't deny his impact. Some dudes just have that "it" factor, charisma, mic presence, voice, etc.. The other thing too is some artists you just feel them. Pac and X both had a way of making you feel them. They both rapped so direct which is a breath of fresh air a times considering their more technical peers. We joke about Pac rhyming Hennessey and enemies, but it worked.

That’s not all he was. Pac was far more lyrical than he got credit for and so was X. I would even argue that at the time he dropped there were not many who had that level of creative storytelling ability like he had. nikka had like 5 concept tracks on IDAHIH.

 

[BedRoomI'z]

This waiting is anguish. I can't even imagine how his family is carrying this.

I listened to both albums last night, got to Dogs For Life and I swear that shyt just hit different. Just imagining X no longer being here.

 

[Piff Perkins]

I don’t think Nore should be getting the BLAME for anything because X is X but it does highlight how irresponsible Nore is in general. nikka in rehab and is a recovering addict and u got this nikka on ur show drinking up a storm. It says something about ur character fam.

Agreed. I never watched the ep but I just don’t understand why they didn’t switch up the format for him, given the situation. Maybe just have a bunch of fruit everywhere, juices, etc.

I’m not blaming Nore for what happened but I wonder if the music industry just isn’t good for recovery. He’s been working with Swizz too...are people smoking around X? Drinking in the studio? We don’t know. I’d hope his friends would help him avoid those things.

Reminds me of The Sopranos where Chris was trying to stay sober but involved in a lifestyle (the mob) that is full of drugs and alcohol. You can’t get away with it.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

thing is, we really don't know what's really going on. it's everyone speaking different versions.

Lawyer said he was breathing at his own. Hours later, he said someone give me wrong info.

Then TMZ (i think it was on the first day), writed this on the article "DMX was rushed to a hospital in White Plains, New York and is in the critical care unit. We're told he has "some brain activity." and in another

"Nevertheless, the rapper's family is not giving up. DMX suffered a heart attack during the OD, and family members are holding out hope when the inflammation subsides his heart will restore itself. Of course, that does not have an impact on brain function."

it's a lot of spread info. should be only done by one person but everyone is speaking different versions of the story.

The details are a little different, but unfortunately no one is telling a different story when it comes to the big picture. The ultimate issue is that his brain went without oxygen for a long time, and he’s been on life support with very little brain activity.

It a depressing and stark situation. His heart function could go back to normal right now and it would be a bleak situation.

I really hate this.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Agreed. I never watched the ep but I just don’t understand why they didn’t switch up the format for him, given the situation. Maybe just have a bunch of fruit everywhere, juices, etc.

I’m not blaming Nore for what happened but I wonder if the music industry just isn’t good for recovery. He’s been working with Swizz too...are people smoking around X? Drinking in the studio? We don’t know. I’d hope his friends would help him avoid those things.

Reminds me of The Sopranos where Chris was trying to stay sober but involved in a lifestyle (the mob) that is full of drugs and alcohol. You can’t get away with it.

The music industry is terrible for recovery man. I don’t know if we explicitly talked about this before, but I bug reason why I went to rehab was that the business was making it harder for me to quit drugs on my own, and the added stress levels didn’t help. A big reason I never went back to the industry after I got clean and sober is because I thought it would be a more difficult environment for me.

At this point I think I could handle it, but it took double digit years to get there, and I’ve moved on to other things. It’s definitely not a great environment for someone trying to stay clean.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

That’s not all he was. Pac was far more lyrical than he got credit for and so was X. I would even argue that at the time he dropped there were not many who had that level of creative storytelling ability like he had. nikka had like 5 concept tracks on IDAHIH.

No doubt. ATF alone is lyrical as fukk.

I hate that people conflate lyricism with a million syllables, rhyme schemes, etc. X had a more simple style, but that style can be just as lyrical.

 

[Flawdaboi]

 

[Day_Walker]

As a former addict I used to lie or try and hide it from my friends that were against that shyt. I'd eventually start hanging with them less when i felt too guilty about being around them and made new circles that were also drug users. I'd avoid seeing them most times when I was high just cause I felt ashamed and could feel judgement from them (real or perceived due to paranoia).
I will say though them sticking around did give me hope that I'd get off the drugs as they reminded me of life before the drugs so I'm glad they stuck by me.
It's easy to call people enablers but it can be complicated, sometimes it's better to keep an addict close to you and be able to keep an eye on them while lightly pushing them towards sobriety than it is to completely cut them off and they end up hanging with other drug users that will repeat all the taking points that already go through an addicts mind to justify the use of drugs.

Also on the Nore thing, I'm still a heavy drinker even though I've quit drugs and would've given him the benefit of the doubt that he probably hit up x before the show to ask if he still drinks but then from the posts in here people are saying he would pressure other guests as well including ones saying they're in AA. If that's true that's just irresponsible

 

[Jx2]

She graduated from my hs and her personal story and journey are fukking unreal. Absolutely incredible person.

 

[DarkandHellisHot]

 

[Ripp]

My Guy even has legendary skits

Anybody ever knock on a door and say "its me mickey" or had someone knock on your door and say that shyt?