Republican Rep. Byron Donalds: “I still believe in spanking. I’ve got kids. I spank my kids.

[doublejump]

Where were these studies during slavery ?

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

Exactly. If they had a dad in the home they were scared of, those kids ain't gonna be punching and slapping teachers. Most of them kids are coming from single mother households where lil man is treated as 'man of the house' or momma isn't treating daughter like daughter, but is trying to compete with her daughter for the attention. When you take the disciplinarian out who is the man, chaos like you see today ensues.

Yep. The crazy part is that the people who have gotten our community to this point are so blind that they can't even see that this is the result of doing things their way. That's the most insane part of it to me.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

my youngest son is the most overdramatic ass nikka there is. One time I had to give him dat work (he was 5 and acting completely ridiculous).

So I go in his room and start whuppin his ass. Then it goes COMPLETELY off the rails.

- after the first 2 chops on his leg, he says "AHHHHHHH, THE BIBLE SAID YOU SHOULD FORGIVE!!!" (he's a private church school). I'm like nikka what as I'm trying to contain laughter.
- after the next 2 chops, he falls on the floor and starts rolling around. I'm like

- next 2 chops, this nikka has the audacity to bust out "AWW DADDY YOU KILLIN ME, I'M DYING, I'M DYING....MY MY MY BUTT FELL OFF!! MY BUTT FELL OFF"

- I immediately stop. turn around looking at my wife as we both are trying our hardest to hold in our laugh. I had to leave and stop just for the sake of me keeping my composure from not busting out laughing.

- after like 10 minutes, I call him downstairs to do our review on why I had to give him dat work and he's using a damn baseball bat limping and shyt walking towards me. All I could do is and told him just goto damn bed. Of course the next morning at his soccer game this nikka lookin like Geechie Pele and shyt.

My little brother was a runner. My mom still tells the story to this day about how when it was time for this fool to get a whipping, he would take off running, hiding under tables and stuff like Michael Jackson did when he was little and my brother has always been a small guy, so nobody could really get into the spaces he got into to get him.

They just had to wait him out while trying not to crack up cause it was so hilarious.

EDIT
After a few good whippings, he learned not to run no more.

 

[Wildin]

I can definitely see this generation getting their ass beat, which is why they wild out.

If your pops keeps hitting you or moms or brother or grandpa your either going to get tough and learn how to take hits or become some sort of coward and hide and avoid situations which might cause pain.

now there's a difference between discipline and abuse. If pops tells you to take the trash out, you don't do it, so now trash is in the can for an extra week til next trash day and he whoops your ass. That's discipline.

if pops just comes home in a bad mood and whoops you. That's abuse.

you can take the trash out every week and never get that discipline/whooping again. You cant do anything about an abusive parent.

 

[OneManGang]

Take behavioral studies seriously brehs

A child needs ass whoopings. As pointed out, every child is different, every situation is different, you don’t need to be Adrian Peterson or Joe Jackson…but emphatically saying beating your child causes trauma is asinine. I’d rather be the one teaching them what it’s like to feel pain for doing something they aren’t supposed to than Officer Harris Mint or somebody in the street. It’s an important part of child development to let them know who’s in charge and actions have consequences.

 

[JasoRockStar]

The main kids that used to get whippings were also the baddest kids in school. Fighting teachers, talking crazy, throwing textbooks at other kids.

And you don't need a "study" to confirm that. Just use common sense. If you teach your child that violence is a justifiable response to anger, frustration or something not going your way, then they're just going to replicate those same patterns out in the world.

 

[ucanthandlethetruth]

https://archive.is/W5itj

This nikka a c00n so fukk him..that said sometimes kids need an ass whippin that's nothing big....hell there are adults who need a good ass whippin that's why you have softies like akademics talking spicy from his basement cause nobody has gone upside his head ...the lack of discipline and accountability is directly related to the deterioration of the youth and society in general that we see today those who say different are fooling themselves.

 

[JasoRockStar]

Spanking has been talked down for decades now but we seem to be entering an era of more mental issues than ever

That has more to do with the uncertainty of the future of the country/planet and the increased cost of everything while wages remain stagnant.

By that same token, spanking has been talked down for decades and violent crime has declined dramatically in this country during that same period.

 

[Tetris v2.0]

Do nicca really think shyt like this? That there are more mental health issues now than before?

I think it's fair to say that. Every generation had their own struggles, but I look at kids now with the internet and social media being everywhere, information (and misinformation) at an all time high, algorithms, a wild political and social climate, cost of living skyrocketing etc, I can definitely see how the new generation has more of a mental struggle than mine (90s baby, millennial)

 

[diggy]

I didn't get spanked much, I fell in line, then my pops went to lecturing me and I wanted spankings instead because he is long winded af.

Getting spanked would have been much less painful in comparison as much as I love my old man.

 

[Still Benefited]

That sort of behavior is learned. Children learn and emulate from their parents how to handle anger, frustration, disappointment, negative emtions. A child doesn't learn how to handle their anger like that--with fist fighting and wrestling--on their own in a household where they never seen or felt that.

What you saw there is exactly what this tragic girl's home looks like every day. This is not the knee jerk reaction of a kid raised in a safe environment full of comfort, healthy expression, and talking. That is not what this child would be accustomed to, or comfortable with, even when he is angry. This is the behavior of someone who lives and experiences violence and fear. Who has found a familiar comfort with this behavior. Mama probably the type to drag her by her hair and kick her on the floor and shyt. And yall think just because they fear you they're not internalizing the behavior.

Kids don't do what you say, they do what you do. Kids know how to emulate what is demonstrated to them. You don't actually learn how to do something from being scorned and instructed by lazy parents, you know how to do it from seeing and emulating. Being feared and being respected are two completely different things. Children behave at home however they are forced to behave in order to feel safe--invisible. They internalize what they actually experience.

The mother of this child, like most ignorant mothers who produce children who go about life like this, has no idea what she's doing and why her "daughter is like this." Will she try new methods? New approaches? Consult a professional? Nope. Probably just do the only thing she knows how to do. That's the real tragedy. This child never stood a chance at a healthy life, and it ain't because she comes from a safe environment and experienced engagement instead of violence from her parents.

The reason we know this is bullshyt is because most of us got spankings. Most of our peers got spankings. Yet most of them were not fighting teachers. And we didnt have that many fights in school. Which based on your "science",it should have been a royal rumble.



These studies are nothing more than the European making correlations to fit a narrative. You can do that about many things.


This little girl has probably built up an ego. That she is a bad ass,feisty,dont take shyt type of girl. This teacher challenging her couldve been a threat to her ego.


This is where 90% of violence comes into play. Someone has their public image or self image threatened.


It is false to pretend that kids base their self image or public image on their parents. Some kids can base their identity entirely on what gains them validation from the outside world. It may be validation at home or validation from society and strangers. When you live in an environment that has a culture that celebrates violence, machismo,not being p*ssy its a recipe for disaster. You will have people whove gained validation from their aggression. Challenging people who may not want to be violent. But their self image/public image they have created deems they have to. People are willing to die and kill to protect their self idealization when its in jeapordy.


Your studies leave out the fact that violence can be neccessary from a parent. When your validation stops mattering,some times to no fault of your own. Time to bring out the valuable teaching tools,aka the hands. Your image must be protected at all cost when you are a parent. If my actions and words have failed to gain your respect,time to escalate.




Acts of violence dont neccessarily mean you are violent.

 

[Virtuous_Brotha]

Presumably the studies are based more on abuse/unjustified beatings from parents not a tap on the wrist.

Don't have kids but it will absolutely be a last resort thing muhfukkaz acting like that is some silver bullet for well behaved kids are in for a rude awakening that's says more about you if you need to get physical for your kid not to be a piece of shyt

 

[Rekkapryde]

Take behavioral studies seriously brehs

A child needs ass whoopings. As pointed out, every child is different, every situation is different, you don’t need to be Adrian Peterson or Joe Jackson…but emphatically saying beating your child causes trauma is asinine. I’d rather be the one teaching them what it’s like to feel pain for doing something they aren’t supposed to than Officer Harris Mint or somebody in the street. It’s an important part of child development to let them know who’s in charge and actions have consequences.

Don't forget having to potentially deal with a nikka like this.

 

[Akae Beka]

I went to school(Elementary)where the teachers were allowed to spank you. Never saw anything get too out of hand, usually you'd get hit with a ruler or yardstick on the palm of your hand or backside. I also never witness kids at a grade school level talk back to their teachers or Principals. It was a community thing and for the most part, the Parents were okay with it( I did witness one time my boys mom getting smacked by a parent..in school). That was in the 90s.. I dunno what it is like today there. I can't say I witness it when I went yo middle school in Arlington VA but it was definitely a shock to me when I moved later that year to upstate NY and was shocked at what I heard going on in front of the teachers and elders.

With that being said, I have yet to spank or whoop my child (age 6) because for him, he hasn't shown me signs(yet) that he'll need that from me.

 

[BulletProof]

I'm against it.

Even if you think the negative issues that stem from it are blown out of proportion, there is no positive besides MAYBE some very temporary submissive behavior.

So why do it? To feel more in charge?

If he is speaking on it in public its because he's trying to appeal to certain backwards demographics Grand Torino style.