Rep. Al Green Tells Charlemagne Why Democrats are Losing

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This is a lie that ppl keep repeating

Bernie more popular than Kamala ever was

Yeah, he's white, but that's not the only reason
Bernie never won anything which should tell you something. Popularity means nothing if you're not winning when it matters, it's like when people bring up Hillary Clinton and the popular vote as if it means anything; Bernie could never win a primary for a reason because when it came down to the nitty-gritty, voters weren't interested in all that progressive shyt.

Progressive politics is a losing strategy at this moment in the US, there's a reason why the Dems are not fully committed to going all out on progressive policies and candidates because they're not sure they can win in this climate.

It's not only Democratic politicians not being on the same page when it comes to moderates/centrists versus progressives but it's also Democrat voters being at odds with each other, y'all keep thinking every Dem voter is an uber-progressive enthusiast when a segment of them are moderates/centrists who don't see eye to eye with progressive policies and candidates.

In America, it's easier to rally people to vote against their best interests and spite their noses to cut their faces to hurt and make other people suffer than it is to galvanize them in voting for society's best interest where everybody succeeds and wins, which is what progressive and socialist policies advocate.

Y'all living in LalaLand cause if you were paying attention to the social climate in America, you'd see everything ain't soo “kumbaya” (unity, togetherness, etc) these days, for progressive/socialist candidates and policies to thrive, society would have to put hatred, bigotry, and disdain, among things to the side.

The reason conservativism and Far-Right politicians and politics are winning right now is because the social climate in America is filled with evil, hatred, bigotry, etc.
 
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Bernie never won anything which should tell you something. Popularity means nothing if you're not winning when it matters, it's like when people bring up Hillary Clinton and the popular vote as if it means anything; Bernie could never win a primary for a reason because when it came down to the nitty-gritty, voters weren't interested in all that progressive shyt.

Progressive politics is a losing strategy at this moment in the US, there's a reason why the Dems are not fully committed to going all out on progressive policies and candidates because they're not sure they can win in this climate.

It's not only Democratic politicians not being on the same page when it comes to moderates/centrists versus progressives but it's also Democrat voters being at odds with each other, y'all keep thinking every Dem voter is an uber-progressive enthusiast when a segment of them are moderates/centrists who don't see eye to eye with progressive policies and candidates.

In America, it's easier to rally people to vote against their best interests and spite their noses to cut their faces to hurt and make other people suffer than it is to galvanize them in voting for society's best interest where everybody succeeds and wins, which is what progressive and socialist policies advocate.

Y'all living in LalaLand cause if you were paying attention to the social climate in America, you'd see everything ain't soo “kumbaya” (unity, togetherness, etc) these days, for progressive/socialist candidates and policies to thrive, society would have to put hatred, bigotry, and disdain, among things to the side.

The reason conservativism and Far-Right politicians and politics are winning right now is because the social climate in America is filled with evil, hatred, bigotry, etc.
Bernie right now is more popular than any Dem

The moment matters

He could win right now, today
 

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lol thats bullshyt. Manchin and Sinema were immune from the pressure progressive Dems tried to put on them. Because the bills literally couldn't pass without Manchin and Sinema's stamp of approval due to the Senate control & vote margin. Which meant they had free rein to ratfukk the bills to their liking.
It’s cause dems didn’t care to pass those bills.

People who say dems are excessively progressive are wrong because they truly are not .


If you listed a bunch of policies without mentioning which policies belong to what side . ( dems , rep ) .

Dems policies are extremely popular .
Republicans policies aren’t popular at all .

It’s a messaging and propaganda issue .
 

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All of them on some dumbass "respect the institution" shyt while getting shot the fukk up at a swords only tournament :mjlol:
I know that Perez chick is from a swing district she won against super MAGA Joe Kemp

basically they voted to censure him so they can go back to their constituents and claim they’re democrats but not “woke”.

But remember anyone doing anything when the white republican said You Lie and Obama’s State of the Union speech

again hard to be mad at #bothsiders who are mad at politicans especially on the Democrat side playing #bothsides
 

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If you listed a bunch of policies without mentioning which policies belong to what side . ( dems , rep ) .

Dems policies are extremely popular .
Republicans policies aren’t popular at all .


It’s a messaging and propaganda issue .
Facts


Summary of findings

  • Across nearly all issues, policies backed by Harris and the Democratic Party are, on average, more popular than those backed by Trump and the Republican Party. 89% (57 out of the 64) of Harris' policies included in the survey are supported by more than half of voters. The same is true for just 48% (31 of 64) of Trump's policies.

It’s a messaging and propaganda issue .

It's probably also a messenger issue. Some ppl were just not going to fukk with a black Indian woman no matter how good her policies sounded
 

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It’s cause dems didn’t care to pass those bills.

People who say dems are excessively progressive are wrong because they truly are not .


If you listed a bunch of policies without mentioning which policies belong to what side . ( dems , rep ) .

Dems policies are extremely popular .
Republicans policies aren’t popular at all .

It’s a messaging and propaganda issue .
What are you talking about. Manchin and Sinema were literally the only two votes that blocked the Senate from changing the Senate rule to allow the voting rights bill to be passed with 51 votes instead of 60 votes.
 

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Bernie never won anything which should tell you something. Popularity means nothing if you're not winning when it matters, it's like when people bring up Hillary Clinton and the popular vote as if it means anything; Bernie could never win a primary for a reason because when it came down to the nitty-gritty, voters weren't interested in all that progressive shyt.

Progressive politics is a losing strategy at this moment in the US, there's a reason why the Dems are not fully committed to going all out on progressive policies and candidates because they're not sure they can win in this climate.

It's not only Democratic politicians not being on the same page when it comes to moderates/centrists versus progressives but it's also Democrat voters being at odds with each other, y'all keep thinking every Dem voter is an uber-progressive enthusiast when a segment of them are moderates/centrists who don't see eye to eye with progressive policies and candidates.

In America, it's easier to rally people to vote against their best interests and spite their noses to cut their faces to hurt and make other people suffer than it is to galvanize them in voting for society's best interest where everybody succeeds and wins, which is what progressive and socialist policies advocate.

Y'all living in LalaLand cause if you were paying attention to the social climate in America, you'd see everything ain't soo “kumbaya” (unity, togetherness, etc) these days, for progressive/socialist candidates and policies to thrive, society would have to put hatred, bigotry, and disdain, among things to the side.

The reason conservativism and Far-Right politicians and politics are winning right now is because the social climate in America is filled with evil, hatred, bigotry, etc.

/Thread.
 

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What are you talking about. Manchin and Sinema were literally the only two votes that blocked the Senate from changing the Senate rule to allow the voting rights bill to be passed with 51 votes instead of 60 votes.
If they cared they would have put pressure on them and made them fall in line.
the way the other side does ..
 

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If they cared they would have put pressure on them and made them fall in line.
the way the other side does ..
My first post literally said they were immune to pressure that was put on them.

The only way people fall in line is if they are facing serious consequences. There were literally no consequences they could face that would change how they did things.

Respectfully, do you know what made Sinema and Manchin untouchable? Do you follow politics enough to understand the dynamics?
 

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Bernie never won anything which should tell you something. Popularity means nothing if you're not winning when it matters, it's like when people bring up Hillary Clinton and the popular vote as if it means anything; Bernie could never win a primary for a reason because when it came down to the nitty-gritty, voters weren't interested in all that progressive shyt.

Progressive politics is a losing strategy at this moment in the US, there's a reason why the Dems are not fully committed to going all out on progressive policies and candidates because they're not sure they can win in this climate.

It's not only Democratic politicians not being on the same page when it comes to moderates/centrists versus progressives but it's also Democrat voters being at odds with each other, y'all keep thinking every Dem voter is an uber-progressive enthusiast when a segment of them are moderates/centrists who don't see eye to eye with progressive policies and candidates.

In America, it's easier to rally people to vote against their best interests and spite their noses to cut their faces to hurt and make other people suffer than it is to galvanize them in voting for society's best interest where everybody succeeds and wins, which is what progressive and socialist policies advocate.

Y'all living in LalaLand cause if you were paying attention to the social climate in America, you'd see everything ain't soo “kumbaya” (unity, togetherness, etc) these days, for progressive/socialist candidates and policies to thrive, society would have to put hatred, bigotry, and disdain, among things to the side.

The reason conservativism and Far-Right politicians and politics are winning right now is because the social climate in America is filled with evil, hatred, bigotry, etc.
What are “progressive politics” :jbhmm: And why didn't “status quo politics” win shyt in 2016 or 2024?
 

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Bernie never won anything which should tell you something. Popularity means nothing if you're not winning when it matters, it's like when people bring up Hillary Clinton and the popular vote as if it means anything; Bernie could never win a primary for a reason because when it came down to the nitty-gritty, voters weren't interested in all that progressive shyt.

Progressive politics is a losing strategy at this moment in the US, there's a reason why the Dems are not fully committed to going all out on progressive policies and candidates because they're not sure they can win in this climate.

It's not only Democratic politicians not being on the same page when it comes to moderates/centrists versus progressives but it's also Democrat voters being at odds with each other, y'all keep thinking every Dem voter is an uber-progressive enthusiast when a segment of them are moderates/centrists who don't see eye to eye with progressive policies and candidates.

In America, it's easier to rally people to vote against their best interests and spite their noses to cut their faces to hurt and make other people suffer than it is to galvanize them in voting for society's best interest where everybody succeeds and wins, which is what progressive and socialist policies advocate.

Y'all living in LalaLand cause if you were paying attention to the social climate in America, you'd see everything ain't soo “kumbaya” (unity, togetherness, etc) these days, for progressive/socialist candidates and policies to thrive, society would have to put hatred, bigotry, and disdain, among things to the side.

The reason conservativism and Far-Right politicians and politics are winning right now is because the social climate in America is filled with evil, hatred, bigotry, etc.
They literally won the Georgia seats in 20/21 with "progressive" promises which gave them the Senate. Deep Blue state Georgia :stopitslime: That's what Al Green was speaking on. They then proceeded to not provide any of them and also could not find a way to save the child tax credit which was ridiculously popular. They're called do nothing Dems for a damn reason.
 

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