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Rick Barry’s frustration will always be justified imo. Imagine playing a game with strict rules for years you had to adhere to, just to see the next generation b*stardize those rules to make the game easier, then on top of that use that to shyt on your generation’s skill set. That would get me hot. How he was taught the game, he’s seeing just a bunch of bad, sloppy, illegal basketball. Like the gather rules in this NBA is hilarious. You can damn near do anything you want with the basketball if you manipulate your gather

Lol it tilts me a little bit and I was taught in the 90s
 

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Anyone remember AI first year at Georgetown? Sweet lord. It's crazy how much NCAA officials had to adjust to him. He used to rack up those turnover calls. All those palming and carrying violations.
It happened his rookie season in the nba also.
 

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I think brooks took a step or two then dribbled and took two more steps last night no whistle
Every player does it too lol

When a player receives a pass, watch how many steps they take before they dribble. They all do this lol.

The dunks, I don’t notice because it’s so fast unless you put it on replay, but that receive a pass and take three steps before your dribble happens so often lol.
 

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Fact 1: Players those days got measured for their height barefoot. Instead of today when they are measured with shoes on, which adds to their height. So by common NBA media logic, those "'6'8" centers would be 6'10 ft tall. Normal height for a Center in the modern NBA. Shaq is in fact 6'11 in real height

Fact 2: Wilt and Russell playing with short guys is in fact a myth. Here's a list of players in Wilt's era he played against 6'10 and up

Kareem Abdul Jabbar: 7'2"
Dennis Awtrey: 6'11"
Walt Bellamy: 6'11"
Tom Boerwinkle: 7'0"
Nate Bowmen: 6'11"
Mel Counts: 7'0"
Walter Dukes: 7'0"
Jim Eakins: 6'11"
Ray Felix: 6'11"
Hank Finkel: 7'0"
Artis Gilmore: 7'2"
Swede Halbrook: 7'3"
Reggie Harding: 7'0"
Bob Lanier: 6'11"
Jim McDaniels: 6'11"
Otto Moore: 6'11"
Dave Newmark: 7'0"
Rich Niemann: 7'0"
Billy Paultz: 6'11"
Craig Raymond: 6'11"
Elmore Smith: 7'0"
Chuck Share: 6'11"
Ronald Taylor: 7'1"
Nate Thurmond: 6'11"
Walt Wesley: 6'11"

Fact 3: The low number of teams plays into Russell's advantage. The NBA in the 50s - early 70s had 1/3 of the numbers of players they do now. So the competition was stiffer. Ever seen the lineup in the all star games of those days? About 3 hall of famers on each team. Wilt would go against 3 hall of famers a night, no 90s Clippers type teams in that era. Imagine Durant, Wade, Kobe on the same team playing against Lebron, Carmelo, Chris Paul on another team


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Somewhere there’s a geek I’m born in 2004 who would refute all of this on his tik tok page
 

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thats like saying you can drop heavyweight champions off in the 60s and they should just handily whoop everyone :russ: :snoop:


That's not comparable at all because the talent pool for heavyweight champions might legit have been larger in the 1960s than it is now. Boxing was one of the biggest sports in the world then. Nowadays, most of the greatest potential heavyweight boxing talent chooses to play football and other sports and heavyweight boxing is becoming a fringe sport with most of the talent in the weight classes that are too small to play other sports. Everyone knew all the big heavyweight names in the 1960s, how many Americans can even name a heavyweight contender now? Especially an American one?

Whereas 1960s NBA basketball was the fringe sport, in its infancy and barely paying most of its players, even having to deal with rival leagues like the ABL (briefly) and then the ABA that was almost as popular as it was. Basketball has blown up 10x since the 1960s, while heavyweight boxing has regressed.
 
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its always dumb being born in the mid era

where you played ball during that time and still now

everything is different, its not some conspiracy or made up event

even shooting 3s etc ... its nowhere near the same game offensively or defensively

the whole era being behind shyt is dumb too, like I said before. I have played in an older era and the modern era.... if I'm beating you today off rip... doesnt that prove your "conditioning" and all types of frugal bullshyt dont matter? ive been beat by players 15-20 years older than me and 10 years younger... a good player is just a good player at any level or time.


thats like saying you can drop heavyweight champions off in the 60s and they should just handily whoop everyone :russ: :snoop:
I know this is an old post but -

Boxing is a completely different sport to hoops.

The talent and pool of heavyweights today isn't even remotely close to the past. Great heavyweights are a rarity now because they're not pushing one another to get better.

If a knife doesn't have steel to sharpen itself, it will get blunt.


In terms of heavyweights, the sport stopped evolving.

You have environmental factors at play where our poor/soft diet have affected things like the structure and strength of our jaws and what trauma they can endure. You have the element of our lives being less labor intensive now where bodies don't develop that natural strength, power, endurance and physical/mental fortitude. You have the awareness around concussions and circumspection around health that was once upon a time never even thought about, that's why you have all these old heavyweights developing cognitive ailments like Parkinson's and Alzheimer's because they had no care for the long-term repercussions of getting hit.

It's the complete opposite to the evolution of basketball.

You're not fighting for your survival in hoops. You're just trying to put a ball in a hoop.
 

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Bruh called them plumber, but it's funny because these athletes today built like streamers :lolbron:


all the muscle slows the game down. PPG, Pace and possessions are up closer to highs that haven’t been seen for decades. Bigs have to be able to run, relocate and be in PnR action at a high clip, cant be a solid wall of muscle.
 

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all the muscle slows the game down. PPG, Pace and possessions are up closer to highs that haven’t been seen for decades. Bigs have to be able to run, relocate and be in PnR action at a high clip, cant be a solid wall of muscle.
yeah the bigs today are doing a great job and the muscle men of yester year wouldn't be able to keep up with this pace of constant bricks from 3 :unimpressed:
 
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Bruh called them plumber, but it's funny because these athletes today built like streamers :lolbron:


I can tell that white boy never even watched Malone play, talking about "battling and banging in the post every night.", when he did anything but that.

Almost the entirety of his shot diet was scoring in the PnR and/or on face-up possessions.

The only time he'd ever use that muscle was to bully small guards.

:unimpressed:

He'd go up against someone like Chet, and instead of backing him down all the way to the rim, he'd shoot a 16fter.

:unimpressed:
 

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fools want professional wrasslers out there

diesel & mailman were pro.wrasslers

HA

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nah they were skilled players too.

But yeah, in any sport people like physicality. Even in a sport like soccer that has a rep for being soft and having floppers......the super physical defenders are the ones who are coveted and praised. In baseball people used to LOVE watching brehs run into the catcher.
 

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I can tell that white boy never even watched Malone play, talking about "battling and banging in the post every night.", when he did anything but that.

Almost the entirety of his shot diet was scoring in the PnR and/or on face-up possessions.

The only time he'd ever use that muscle was to bully small guards.

:unimpressed:

He'd go up against someone like Chet, and instead of backing him down all the way to the rim, he'd shoot a 16fter.

:unimpressed:

:mjgrin: I DONT SEE ANY GUARDS HERE


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