Religious folk, do you literally interpret the Bible, Quran, Torah?

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Then an all knowing god would pick a better method to relay his only interaction with the world? Your post shows that it is man made and limited to the people of the time. Certainly worthless to us today. And thus not an important message from "god" to humanity.

lol at this reply.
by your logic, school kids shouldnt learn
Pythagorean theorem since it did come about 570 BC—ca. 495 BC.

the manner in which the egyptians wrote things on the walls. once you put them in context you can figure out what they were saying. thats how it always goes when reading historical events.

if you are the type of person that can LEARN from historical events, and history in general. then you would know and understand this.

everything in the bible is not up for super interpretation based on culture, or context at the time. some of it is pretty self explanatory. all of the basic principles of the bible, God, Jesus. are all Self explanatory and you dont need to know the context to get the gist of it. now to thoroughly understand everything in the good book you have to STUDY it. studying reveals things.

i see you dont want to study it. so there's nothing to talk about. but even for you. there's enough basic info for you to know who God is, who you really are thru his eyes, who his son is, why his son was sent here, why his son died on that cross, and what will happen to you once you die a physical death depending on whether or not you are a saved believer.

nothing tough about understanding the KEY points at all.
so you have more then enough to get your personal ticket to heaven.

you also have enough to minister to others if you already have your ticket.

So this idea that its to difficult to understand is foolishness. if you really want to know every end and out of what was going on back then and why he said this or did that to understand the basics even better. then you need to STUDY IT within context, language, ,etc.

 

[intilectual recipricol]

lol at this reply.
by your logic, school kids shouldnt learn
Pythagorean theorem since it did come about 570 BC—ca. 495 BC.

the manner in which the egyptians wrote things on the walls. once you put them in context you can figure out what they were saying. thats how it always goes when reading historical events.

if you are the type of person that can LEARN from historical events, and history in general. then you would know and understand this.

everything in the bible is not up for super interpretation based on culture, or context at the time. some of it is pretty self explanatory. all of the basic principles of the bible, God, Jesus. are all Self explanatory and you dont need to know the context to get the gist of it. now to thoroughly understand everything in the good book you have to STUDY it. studying reveals things.

i see you dont want to study it. so there's nothing to talk about. but even for you. there's enough basic info for you to know who God is, who you really are thru his eyes, who his son is, why his son was sent here, why his son died on that cross, and what will happen to you once you die a physical death depending on whether or not you are a saved believer.

nothing tough about understanding the KEY points at all.
so you have more then enough to get your personal ticket to heaven.

you also have enough to minister to others if you already have your ticket.

So this idea that its to difficult to understand is foolishness. if you really want to know every end and out of what was going on back then and why he said this or did that to understand the basics even better. then you need to STUDY IT within context, language, ,etc.

I have no need for fairy tales. You speak as someone who has no idea about the history of the bible and abrahamic religions. What you think is clear today likely was something else to the writers, and something different 1000 years ago. Your understanding of that awful book is how YOU understand it today, disregarding the fact that theres like 38000 different denominations with different takes on the bible.

And your point about the Pythagorean theorem is no point at all. It wasnt a message transmitted by "god" to everyone as his only message to the world. It was some shyt about geometry. And whats even funnier, is that when you translate the PT it doesnt get messed up or confused. The theorem is the same regardless of what language you put it in... nikkaz all over the planet are drawing the correct triangles... which means Pythagoras was actually better than yahweh at conveying a message.

 

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I have no need for fairy tales. You speak as someone who has no idea about the history of the bible and abrahamic religions. What you think is clear today likely was something else to the writers, and something different 1000 years ago. Your understanding of that awful book is how YOU understand it today, disregarding the fact that theres like 38000 different denominations with different takes on the bible.

And your point about the Pythagorean theorem is no point at all. It wasnt a message transmitted by "god" to everyone as his only message to the world. It was some shyt about geometry. And whats even funnier, is that when you translate the PT it doesnt get messed up or confused. The theorem is the same regardless of what language you put it in... nikkaz all over the planet are drawing the correct triangles... which means Pythagoras was actually better than yahweh at conveying a message.

see you're wrong on all accounts.

#1 how do you know if the PT isnt translated incorrectly? You dont. the original creator of PT is no longer living to let us know if its correct or not how we translate it. for all we know we could've changed some things around. applied to one to many things. cause if you know anything about it its not just applied to triangles.

and to say there's a bunch of denominations has nothing to do with the basic concepts are not mis-understood by christians. i'm not talking about muslims.i dont call their book the word of God. and that goes for other religions. and who said it was God's only message? no one said that. he speaks to you and thru you all the time or can. it may not be an audible voice. but does it have to be? nope. there are death people that cant speak at all, yet they can sign. nothing audible about sign language. no need. you can put the signs together to figure out whats being said.

and as we say a picture is worth a thousand words. why speak to you all the time in an audible voice. when you have the time wont listen anyway. and only listen when its right in your face.

"oh so you dont think drinking and driving is a big deal."

you stumble out the club drunk as usual keys in hand , hop in the whip drive like a fool like you usually do. uh oh Wham. you just hit something. OH NO. you just hit/killed a little girl.

your significant other kept telling you it wasnt safe to drink and drive. you wouldnt listen. cause we dont like to listen to words when we want to do what we want to do. God spoke to your via your conscious. you still refused to listen.

So okay maybe you'll listen now. you have taken a life. now you're in jail talking about if you could do it all over again on some episode of locked up.

i'm watching said episode. i'm 16 yrs old. the moment i drink and get ready to drive. i'm going to think of what you just said on that show. GOD speaks to you and thru you . the question is ARe you listening?

 

[IVS]

Here is a a good read for my fellow occultist regarding the bible.

http://books.google.com/books?id=bqlbAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=astronomico theological&hl=en&sa=X&ei=NGL2Ucdf2OHgA5SvgcAE&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=astronomico theological&f=false

 

[Broke Wave]

I take the Quran as 100% totally the literal word of the creator, except when there is OBVIOUS allegory and other literal devices.

 

[L.A.]

I came from a catholic family. My whole problem with the bible is that its been tampered with so many times over the years. They also have scriptures that the general public is not allowed to read, why not? My guess is that their hiding something very important and that could possibly change the whole perspective of religion.

 

[Spin]

Anything written by the hand of man is prone to errors, bias, etc. However, that doesn't mean that there isn't truth in it. King David, Solomon, Jesus and many of the characters committed "immoral" actions, but were still blessed by God. That to me holds more weight than worrying about what this line might means or that line. Job was one of the most observant followers of God and look how God played with him. If God created everything, how did he/she/it also not create evil?

You also have to keep in mind there were many sects of Christians right after Jesus that were interpreting him differently. Most of these early Christians were Jews which in itself was a different sect than the traditional Judaism of the time. Each sect has/had their own Oral traditions that weren't necessarily written down.