Redskins Facing Corporate and Local Political Pressure to Change Name EDIT: Washington Football Team

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I've done the research, even posted the results either here but likely on sohh. What's happening here is what you call a jedi mind trick. If you look up the origin of the term redskin you'll find that a native American tribe that lived near Chicago would always wear red paint. Usually tribes did that when at war but this one particular tribe would wear it at all times and they called themselves "Redskins" not sure if im paraphrasing the S at the end but yes. And I can showcase that but before I do I gotta address why some native Americans are cool and others are not with the name. It's about education, then you gotta see the jedi mind trick that gets applied. This quote in a nutshell will reveal what's going on...
A few cited a study written by Smithsonian Institution senior linguist Ives Goddard that makes the case that the word did not begin as an insult.

But here is a quote from another member of the Smithsonian – Kevin Gover, a member of the Pawnee Nation of Oklahoma and director of the Institution's National Museum of the American Indian:

"I'm really not that interested in where the word comes from," Gover said. "I know how it was used. And it's been used in a disparaging way for at least a couple of centuries
This is a top voice representing native Americans saying he doesn't know where the word originates but white folk say it's bad so fukk my history :picard: I guess he was too busy to do the research. I can direct anyone to sources but I'm sure wikipedia should have some of that info with links. Let me see....

Redskin - Wikipedia

But it doesn't stop with that. When designing the logo they had native Americans create it so they wouldn't do the thing that bothered native Americans the most. They way they are depicted, the caricatures. I fully understand why any race of ppl would be like "nah, we good" especially with that Cleveland Indians logo I grew up with. But that truth doesn't mean Redskins gotta go too. Only if you are surrendering your true history to your oppressor :francis: origin of the logo...
Walter Wetzel

The current logo, proposed by Walter Wetzel, a former Blackfeet tribal chairman and past president of the National Congress of American Indians, was introduced in 1972 and is modeled after the likeness on the Buffalo nickel
So in conclusion, ignorance on the matter and allowing white people to lead your fight for equality will lead to jedi mind tricks.

Next time we'll delve into the word ****** and how white folks didn't really invent that either. They just pronounced it differently then added "ignorant" to the meaning so they can jedi mind trick and now it's the ugliest word in the language of the people who historically hated black everything. Let's do a quick review of the origin...
Did the Definition of ****** Change?
There is a widespread belief that the original meaning of ******, as defined in dictionaries, was "an ignorant person," and a related belief that current dictionary definitions describing its use as a hateful, racist epithet are a recent change. We do not know the source of those beliefs, but they are not accurate. The word was first included in a Merriam-Webster dictionary in 1864, at which time it was defined as a synonym of Negro, with a note indicating that it was used "in derision or depreciation." There has never been a definition like "an ignorant person" for this word in any subsequent dictionary published by this company. Nor do we know of such a definition in any earlier dictionary.
Most Americans today will say the ignorant line but that is part of the mind trick :facepalm:

But who cares about facts and truths right?
 

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Can this thread turn into guessing what terrible name they're gonna pick?

I've always loved the Redtails idea, but they'll stay away from anything that's perceived as racial so I feel like it'll be the Red Hogs and the mascot will look like Ganon from Legend of Zelda

:russ::russ:
 

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I've done the research, even posted the results either here but likely on sohh. What's happening here is what you call a jedi mind trick. If you look up the origin of the term redskin you'll find that a native American tribe that lived near Chicago would always wear red paint. Usually tribes did that when at war but this one particular tribe would wear it at all times and they called themselves "Redskins" not sure if im paraphrasing the S at the end but yes. And I can showcase that but before I do I gotta address why some native Americans are cool and others are not with the name. It's about education, then you gotta see the jedi mind trick that gets applied. This quote in a nutshell will reveal what's going on...

This is a top voice representing native Americans saying he doesn't know where the word originates but white folk say it's bad so fukk my history :picard: I guess he was too busy to do the research. I can direct anyone to sources but I'm sure wikipedia should have some of that info with links. Let me see....

Redskin - Wikipedia

But it doesn't stop with that. When designing the logo they had native Americans create it so they wouldn't do the thing that bothered native Americans the most. They way they are depicted, the caricatures. I fully understand why any race of ppl would be like "nah, we good" especially with that Cleveland Indians logo I grew up with. But that truth doesn't mean Redskins gotta go too. Only if you are surrendering your true history to your oppressor :francis: origin of the logo...

So in conclusion, ignorance on the matter and allowing white people to lead your fight for equality will lead to jedi mind tricks.

Next time we'll delve into the word ****** and how white folks didn't really invent that either. They just pronounced it differently then added "ignorant" to the meaning so they can jedi mind trick and now it's the ugliest word in the language of the people who historically hated black everything. Let's do a quick review of the origin...

Most Americans today will say the ignorant line but that is part of the mind trick :facepalm:

But who cares about facts and truths right?
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The new name should be interesting. Especially since they have about 6 weeks before the season begins. :mjgrin: My guess is: The Washington Rebels. It can be interpreted in any way :mjpls:
 

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Can this thread turn into guessing what terrible name they're gonna pick?

I've always loved the Redtails idea, but they'll stay away from anything that's perceived as racial so I feel like it'll be the Red Hogs and the mascot will look like Ganon from Legend of Zelda

:russ::russ:


Bruh, you read my mind :russ:
I'm thinking there's no way they gonna pick all these names floating out here and get in trouble with copyrights or any other craziness, plus they got history with the hogs nickname from some decades back.
 
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