"Redman really only had two good albums, Docs da name was wack" Doggie Diamonds

[I love Latina women]

He said Redman ain't made a relevant or dope record in a long time but neither has Treach

 

[FreshAIG]

When was that 1991? Who else was there to compete with CL Smooth, Cube? Lyricism took a big jump after Illmatic came out and that's when the competition got tougher. Treach wasn't up there with Nas, Rae, Ghost, GZA, Big, etc. He was dated by then. Red was still killing shyt.

I remember around the time Cuban Linx came out in 95 and having debates on the who the best was and Red's name came up. Nobody said Treach. You don't want to go verse for verse because I guarantee you you'll be walking back what you said.

I'm not trying to downplay Treach but he got lapped when the bar was raised.

There was bunch of nice rappers in 1991 bro. Lord Finesse, G Rap, Cube, Guru, Pos, Tip, Chuck, KRS, Rakim etc...

Treach improved as years went on too, he just wasn't the "it" rapper anymore because other people had came and gotten more popular by then. Naughty by Nature's run was 1991-1993. By 1995, Treach popularity declined significantly but his skills didn't. He actually improved a lot.

There's literally nothing you can tell me about Redman bro, between this forum and SOHH, I probably got more Redman threads about how he's one of the GOATs then anyone. But I'm also realistic, Treach was every bit as good as Redman from a technical standpoint, probably better. His flow and rhyme schemes were second to none during that timeframe. Redman had better punchlines like I already said.

Go listen to Treach's verses on joints like "Respect Due" "Craziest" and "Chain Remains" in 1995, forget what we prefer or what meant more to us, just from technical perspective, Treach was still one of the elites.

 

[Yehuda]

Whut? Thee Album and Muddy Waters. I'm good on Dare Iz a Darkside and anything else.

 

[TEKBEATZ]

Doggie Diamonds while seeming like a cool brother has some wack hip hop opinons I couldnt care for

this

 

[spliz]

His first two are classic

fukk Muddy Waters tho that album was boring I fukked with Docs Da Name more than that shyt

Worst opinions on literally everything. lol. It's uncanny.

 

[Supa]

There was bunch of nice rappers in 1991 bro. Lord Finesse, G Rap, Cube, Guru, Pos, Tip, Chuck, KRS, Rakim etc...

Treach improved as years went on too, he just wasn't the "it" rapper anymore because other people had came and gotten more popular by then. Naughty by Nature's run was 1991-1993. By 1995, Treach popularity declined significantly but his skills didn't. He actually improved a lot.

There's literally nothing you can tell me about Redman bro, between this forum and SOHH, I probably got more Redman threads about how he's one of the GOATs then anyone. But I'm also realistic, Treach was every bit as good as Redman from a technical standpoint, probably better. His flow and rhyme schemes were second to none during that timeframe. Redman had better punchlines like I already said.

Go listen to Treach's verses on joints like "Respect Due" "Craziest" and "Chain Remains" in 1995, forget what we prefer or what meant more to us, just from technical perspective, Treach was still one of the elites.

He was great technically. I'm talking about the bars. Treach just wasn't the guy who made you hit rewind or had crazy lines quotables. Red is known for stand out lines and he's no slouch technically. Red best verses still hold up today. Treach's don't.

 

[spliz]

You're bugging. fukk unique, Treach was legit arguably the best MC in the game at one point. Saying he's nowhere near Redman talent wise is complete nonsense. Treach literally had crazy wordplay, flow, delivery, cadence, song making ability. If you prefer Redman, that's cool, I did too. But to deny that Treach was one of the illest MCs of the 90s means you're either uninformed or lying.

That nikka Treach's use of alliteration is prolly the illest in the rap game till this day.

 

[FreshAIG]

He was great technically. I'm talking about the bars. Treach just wasn't the guy who made you hit rewind or had crazy lines quotables. Red is known for stand out lines and he's no slouch technically. Red best verses still hold up today. Treach's don't.

Redman is amazing, zero argument from me. I'm just acknowledging Treach was superior on the technical shyt. He was basically doing what Em does now back in 1993-1995. He made me rewind a bunch of times because his rhyme patterns would be outlandish lol. We'll just agree to disagree bro.

 

[Heavy_Handz]

His first two are classic

fukk Muddy Waters tho that album was boring I fukked with Docs Da Name more than that shyt

Muddy Waters his best album

 

[FreshAIG]

That nikka Treach's use of alliteration is prolly the illest in the rap game till this day.

His last verse on Craziest is still one of the most technically proficient rap verses ever. And it's damn near 30 years old.

 

[Threnody]

Muddy Waters his best album

How? That shyt was boring as fukk yo! Only song I liked was "Creepin" he made that album for normal nikkas

We used to set shyt on fire when new Redman came out I couldn't get jiggy to that MW shyt at all nikka never should have got sober

 

[Heavy_Handz]

How? That shyt was boring as fukk yo! Only song I liked was "Creepin" he made that album for normal nikkas

We used to set shyt on fire when new Redman came out I couldn't get jiggy to that MW shyt at all nikka never should have got sober

LOL @ “get jiggy”

 

[Flav]

I see a lot of comments saying Redman first 3 albums being classic but acting like Docs The Name isn’t a debatable classic too. Yall lost yall damn minds. Docs The Name is Redmans “It Was Written” He stepped away from the dusty grimy slow p funk beats and still made a debatable classic album.

 

[Harry B]

I rank Mreck and Doggie diamonds between Akademiks and that white dude who like rappers with tattoos on their face. Just cause they come from certain backgrounds, certain eras, talk with a certain accent they get a lot of passes for being trash with their clickbait asses

 

[tuckgod]

Stop it.

Treach had a unique style but he's not fukking with Redman on bars. Red got better with each of his first 3 albums while Treach went nowhere. His style was dated after a while

Treach was the most influential rapper of the early 90s.

Even Redman bit his style a little bit.