"Redman really only had two good albums, Docs da name was wack" Doggie Diamonds

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How is he gonna say Red only has two "good" albums but praise Treach for putting Jersey on and having braids:gucci:

Naughty made great songs but bar for bar Treach is not close to Red as a rapper. He's knows better which is why he avoided mentioning skill. Red was the guy who was murdering features and anything else.

He definitely sounds salty. "That's Erick Sermon's people":stopitslime:
 

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How is he gonna say Red only has two "good" albums but praise Treach for putting Jersey on and having braids:gucci:

Naughty made great songs but bar for bar Treach is not close to Red as a rapper. He's knows better which is why he avoided mentioning skill. Red was the guy who was murdering features and anything else.

He definitely sounds salty. "That's Erick Sermon's people":stopitslime:

I wouldn't go that far, Treach was an incredible MC. Probably more technically talented than Redman when you account for the cadences and rhyme schemes. Redman had better punchlines. But verse for verse, Treach is right there with him.
 

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I wouldn't go that far, Treach was an incredible MC. Probably more technically talented than Redman when you account for the cadences and rhyme schemes. Redman had better punchlines. But verse for verse, Treach is right there with him.

Stop it.

Treach had a unique style but he's not fukking with Redman on bars. Red got better with each of his first 3 albums while Treach went nowhere. His style was dated after a while
 

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Stop it.

Treach had a unique style but he's not fukking with Redman on bars. Red got better with each of his first 3 albums while Treach went nowhere.
You're bugging. fukk unique, Treach was legit arguably the best MC in the game at one point. Saying he's nowhere near Redman talent wise is complete nonsense. Treach literally had crazy wordplay, flow, delivery, cadence, song making ability. If you prefer Redman, that's cool, I did too. But to deny that Treach was one of the illest MCs of the 90s means you're either uninformed or lying.
 

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First 3 albums are classic

Yup! And as discussed a few months back here - those first three classic album runs are difficult to achieve and rare!

I heard Doggie's name before but why is he doing this to his name?

He'd better apologize quick while he still can.

God bless Redman for Life!!!
 

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You're bugging. fukk unique, Treach was legit arguably the best MC in the game at one point. Saying he's nowhere near Redman talent wise is complete nonsense. Treach literally had crazy wordplay, flow, delivery, cadence, song making ability. If you prefer Redman, that's cool, I did too. But to deny that Treach was one of the illest MCs of the 90s means you're either uninformed or lying.

When was that 1991? Who else was there to compete with CL Smooth, Cube? Lyricism took a big jump after Illmatic came out and that's when the competition got tougher. Treach wasn't up there with Nas, Rae, Ghost, GZA, Big, etc. He was dated by then. Red was still killing shyt.

I remember around the time Cuban Linx came out in 95 and having debates on who the best was and Red's name came up often. I even knew Brooklynites who said Red over Big. Nobody said Treach at that time. You don't want to go verse for verse because I guarantee you you'll be walking back what you said.

I'm not trying to downplay Treach but he got lapped when the bar was raised.
 

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Redman first three albums were certified classics. Doc's Da Name regardless of how Doggie Diamonds feel, is REDMAN'S MOST COMMERCIALLY SUCCESSFUL ALBUM. It was the album that earned him mainstream appeal and it was a solid album. You cannot dismiss Redman's initial run like that, and his run with Meth and Def Squad. You can criticize the latter years not being as good as his run in the 90's but most 90's rappers didn't transition greatly into the 00's, only a few being Nas, Jay-Z, Busta Rhymes and Fat Joe who had good runs in the following decade.

Doggie don't be caring about sales. Whether or not it was commercially acceptable is irrelevant. A lot f Reggie fans weren't feeling it like that. "It's OK" was the general consensus. Every time I pull it out to play, I end up skipping most of it.
 
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