Recent study finds that 60% of men under 30 are single due to social media and the internet

[Shadow King]

His opinion on how women feel about him is simply that.

I'm simply talking facts. The facts are this he was treated how he was treated by them and in response to that treatment he made a decision. He alone made that decision and no one else. This is not my opinion it is fact. He could have made multiple different decisions. The path he is currently on is the path he chose for himself based on what he encountered.

He could chosen other options even multiples of these or more:
I'm gonna take some time off and focus on me and later on down the line start getting at women again.
I'm never going to speak to another woman again.
I hate women they're all bytches and hoes and I'll talk shyt about them every chance I get.
I'll never stop shooting my shot and if they reject me so what I'll keep going.
I'm going to go online and start catfishing people.
I'll just continuously hire escorts when I get lonely.

I'm saying whatever the choice own that choice. A person will never get anywhere in life in general if they can't look at a situation even a bad one and evaluate what they have control over, the options they have, and the decisions they make.

There's nothing wrong with quitting. There is something wrong with quitting and acting like you didn't decide to quit it was forced on you. I don't think he will make the decision I made because I dated and felt hollow and unfulfilled by it. Same with having sex so I just stopped all of it. The difference is I'm the reason why not anybody else.

Nothing you're stating is a fact. It's your opinion on how he should feel about his 35 years on Earth with women.

Why is it so important to you to break his arm to make him say it's his choice?

 

[Payday23]

that's all i'm saying breh.

I can only speak for myself. Do I adapt? Of course. Do I compete? Naturally. Even still, it doesnt get you that far with how things are nowadays. I aint saying that men are right to sulk and give up etc. But simply put the juice often isn't worth the squeeze.

People will say, work on yourself, get money, go to the gym, find a better job etc. And I agree; the thing though is

A) society doesnt work that way. Not everyone is genetically blessed or capable of being the cream of the crop
B) the women demanding that usually aint anything special themselves.

Dudes have seen those pop the balloon clips...kevin samuels clips and still have the gall to think shyt is sweet out here. LOL if you havent experienced being single and dating in the last 2-3 years then you cant speak on these matters

Exactly. Average Men are having to put in 100000x more work than normal just to pull an average woman who let some scummy dude smash

 

[Payday23]

I agree but out the other stats show most men find most women attractive you can't say the opposite. I dont think the majority of these dudes are waiting for the rubi rose types

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[Payday23]

Real shyt...I been saying I notice women AND men complain about dating climate both online and offline.

Both genders even say both genders not playing their roles.

Women want men to play their role while enjoying all the benefits of modern feminism

 

[Weaver31]

Women want men to play their role while enjoying all the benefits of modern feminism

That whole part! But men also wanna go 50/50 and not do 50/50 when it comes to cooking, cleaning and other house duties...they wanna pay half the bills but want entire submission.

Both genders need to be reasonable and do what's best for the relationship and family.

 

[Shadow King]

That whole part! But men also wanna go 50/50 and not do 50/50 when it comes to cooking, cleaning and other house duties...they wanna pay half the bills but want entire submission.

Both genders need to be reasonable and do what's best for the relationship and family.

I don't know a man under 40 who actually feels that way. That seems to be some Gen X shìt.

Most Millennial male children were raised by single mothers teaching them to cook and clean.

 

[winb83]

Nothing you're stating is a fact. It's your opinion on how he should feel about his 35 years on Earth with women.

Why is it so important to you to break his arm to make him say it's his choice?

It isn't my opinion he made a decision in response to how women treated him. It's a fact. That's literally what he did.

If you're asking my opinion I don't think the guy should waste another moment in his life attempting to date a woman. I think dating in general is stupid to begin with and I think people should live selfishly for themselves and fuck everybody else.

One should only live like this if they embrace the life though. If you're gonna act like you were forced to live this way and don't really want it bullshyt get out there and make the life you want happen and accept no less even if that means falling down a million times and getting back up a million times. Life it too short to live in fear of the things you want because there's pain involved in getting them.

When I'm on my deathbed I'm gonna say I did it my way. When he's on his death bed will he say the same?

 

[Shadow King]

It isn't my opinion he made a decision in response to how women treated him. It's a fact. That's literally what he did.

If you're asking my opinion I don't think the guy should waste another moment in his life attempting to date a woman. I think dating in general is stupid to begin with and I think people should live selfishly for themselves and fuck everybody else.

One should only live like this if they embrace the life though. If you're gonna act like you were forced to live this way and don't really want it bullshyt get out there and make the life you want happen and accept no less even if that means falling down a million times and getting back up a million times. Life it too short to live in fear of the things you want because there's pain involved in getting them.

I'm on my deathbed I'm gonna say I did it my way. When he's on his death bed will he say the same?

It is your opinion, you don't dictate how he processes his formative experiences.

Where in this thread has he said he's still putting a bunch of energy toward women?

Third paragraph is more armchair psychology. You can be one way in one aspect of life and another in another. Hard to say a person who's lost 100+ pound if I'm not mistaken is adverse to difficult tasks.

Why is the bolded important to you? You aren't attempting to matchmake him or take on any projects with him where his character comes into question. How he feels about romance on his deathbed won't give you extra breath.

 

[winb83]

It is your opinion, you don't dictate how he processes his formative experiences.

Where in this thread has he said he's still putting a bunch of energy toward women?

Third paragraph is more armchair psychology. You can be one way in one aspect of life and another in another. Hard to say a person who's lost 100+ pound if I'm not mistaken is adverse to difficult tasks.

Why is the bolded important to you? You aren't attempting to matchmake him or take on any projects with him where his character comes into question. How he feels about romance on his deathbed won't give you extra breath.

If someone does something to you and in response you take an action that's a choice you made in response to what they did. That's not an opinion it's fact. Otherwise you're arguing that someone else entered his body and controlled his brain and selected his response for him. I guess these women did that to him?

Please break it down how was his response to their behavior towards him a process you call him processing his formative experiences not his choice. Who took control of his mind and body and forced the response on him?

 

[Worthless Loser]

Social media and the internet tells the truth that some men need to hear. The truth hurts, but it also protects them from further harm when they go 0 out of 30 when attempting to talk to women.

Unless you are tall and good looking, have a lot of money or or look like you robbed 3 people, don't bother.

 

[Shadow King]

If someone does something to you and in response you take an action that's a choice you made in response to what they did. That's not an opinion it's fact. Otherwise you're arguing that someone else entered his body and controlled his brain and selected his response for him. I guess these women did that to him?

Please break it down how was his response to their behavior towards him a process you call him processing his formative experiences not his choice. Who took control of his mind and body and forced the response on him?

All that entered his body and controlled him bullshìt could be arguing the other way. He can't control how he's been treated for 35 years. The chasm between circumstance and choice is not as wide as you think, which is again your opinion.

Please break down why this grown man's attitude towards circumstance will have you going back for a week to force him to see shìt your way since you refuse to drop it. This is at least my third post trying to understand why you care this much.

 

[Payday23]

Why should you ignore me when I am still dating women in their mid 20’s to mid 30’s? When I was in my early to mid 20’s dating was harder, but then I worked on it and myself and after a while women became easier.

Also I hate to say this but as black men, if you can hold down a decent paying job, know how to look presentable, and can keep a conversation going. Women will start to pursue you, because them being around you validates their vanity.

Also getting married is on men, IE you have to make a decision to marry that woman and propose to her. That number going down is as much societal as everything else as men basically can move in with a woman and play house without marrying her. There isn’t really a benefit outside of taxes, mutual incomes, and having kids.

Now when it comes to having kids, that is on women, I had a job where they made having kids very affordable through health insurance and gave time off and the women on the job was having kids all the time. Some issue are economic, and some issues go beyond dating. Like I said earlier the abortion laws have messed this up because most places don’t support working mothers, so women are withdrawing from the dating pool due to fears of having a child they would have to raise alone.

The vitriol against women, needs to be aimed at conservative politicians and billionaires who keep trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, because they refuse to make thing easier for men For self serving purposes. Ya’ll complain about dating when two of the best dating apps of the last 15 years (Tinder and Hinge) got bought by the company that runs OK Cupid and transformed from being focused on dating and instead have been made into money pits designed around engagement. Also conservative keep promoting men to not go to college because of some machismo fantasy, and that is where all the women are.

Look at your graph. 27% of men say they meet women off the apps, but the apps are fukked up. However, alternatively, 25% of men say they meet women from work and school. Now women are going to college and getting, white collared job. However, these podcasters are telling men, don’t do that, go into the trades…. Where all you will do is work with other men.

The best chance as a man to meet women is to go to college and get a white collared job. That with the apps gives you a 52% chance to meet your wife. 55% if you go to church. Another option is don’t go to college, maybe go into a field with a lot of women like health care. That would give you a 37% chance to meet women. 40% if you go to church. Everything is a numbers game until it happens to you, and you got to give yourself a chance it can happen to you. If the apps don’t work from you, then you got to eat off of the other subcategories in that graph.

Basically, if ya’ll want to meet women choose a career path that fits that. Just like I was saying my former job was a career path that promoted women having babies. Economics runs shyt. Cash rules everything around me. Young men need to change their approaches. You are still young enough to adapt to the reality around you, you can’t change it, you can only change you.

Breh you can make $100k at 19 as a welder..I know several who make 6 figures in their early 20s. That's lame AF choosing a career to chase women.

 

[Payday23]

Bruh a lot of this is new

Ppl acknowledge the way men are being radicalized over the internet but when it comes to dating it's just "git gud"

Or worse they tell them no one owes you anything

 

[Payday23]

48 years old aka Gen X.

Your teenage ans young adult years were in the 90s and 00s, when it was more grounded and Blackplanet was the only online website for dating. Back when the concept of balling out money was limited to drug dealers and rappers that were on TV.

Social media post 2012 is a monster that few dating psychologists can truly ever comprehend. Superficial and unrealistic standards is what ruined humanity.

Exactly we're living in real life evolution from Social media, gender roles destruction and hyper capitalism. Men were targeted for the last 20+ years in every major media, education and political institutions. It's why crazies like Tate, Trump etc have appeal they're making these men feel like they have somewhere to turn to. Kevin died at the worst possible time imo

 

[Payday23]

I think saying you have never been on a date in 35 years of life is different than saying you have never had a relationship.

That said I still would never make the statement that every single woman on earth would not deal with a man with no dating or relationship experience.

More and more women are starting dating later. We're seeing a huge societal shift in real time