Recent study finds that 60% of men under 30 are single due to social media and the internet

[Neuromancer]

What stats? I’m legitimately asking.

I think winning the lottery is an overstatement.

Anecdotal but I just got married (3) weeks ago. I met her when I was 38. That just how it worked out. I’m a pretty normal breh. Big picture I think saying someone is locked outdating at 35 is pretty fatalistic.

It is I'm getting married this August and I'm 38.

 

[Neuromancer]

I feel sorry for young brehs.

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Ya'll still going

 

[Neuromancer]

Ypj started off saying I'm entitled to women.

An assumption I've already disproven more than once.

And you told me to go to the gym.

I've posted my pictures already.

Hey brother. I'm sorry you're going through this. Have you gotten to a point where you don't want to date? Or are you still holding out hope?

 

[winb83]

Ypj started off saying I'm entitled to women.

An assumption I've already disproven more than once.

And you told me to go to the gym.

I've posted my pictures already.

You still can't admit that you made choices for yourself even to this very moment.

Still can't say I went out and put myself out there and some woman rejected me and I won't deal with that so I'm done. Your frame is still it's their fault things are this way. I mean what else is there to call it when someone basically says I put myself out there and they rejected me they all don't want me and find me unattractive so this isn't happening and it's their fault but a sense of entitlement? The underlying suggestion is when you put yourself out there they should have accepted you. Nobody is owed acceptance by default ever from anyone.

 

[Mandarin Duck]

You still can't admit that you made choices for yourself even to this very moment.

Still can't say I went out and put myself out there and some woman rejected me and I won't deal with that so I'm done. Your frame is still it's their fault things are this way. I mean what else is there to call it when someone basically says I put myself out there and they rejected me they all don't want me and find me unattractive so this isn't happening and it's their fault but a sense of entitlement? The underlying suggestion is when you put yourself out there they should have accepted you. Nobody is owed acceptance by default ever from anyone.

It seems like your obsessed with labeling me entitled when I've said more than once women don't owe me any any man anything for simply existing.

 

[Mandarin Duck]

Hey brother. I'm sorry you're going through this. Have you gotten to a point where you don't want to date? Or are you still holding out hope?

I understand that I'm not attractive to women.

I also understand I'm not entitled to women.

Let me say that again before somebody labels me entitled.

 

[winb83]

Ya'll still going

All dude needed to do way say you know what I gave it the college try and it didn't work out for me. I can't deal with this and I'm done. That's my decision.

Instead it's this whole this wasn't my choice they forced this on me and they don't want me. like He's their victim. He's like the wife that cheats on the husband from the military and her excuse is you were never there you forced me to cheat on you. No lady you made a choice to do that. you could have made a different one. Nothing was forced on you. Same thing here.

Hell I'm all for not dating anyone ever again. I think it's the best life one can live. I'm not against his outcome I'm against how he got to it. Chose the life willingly don't claim it was forced on you.

 

[Neuromancer]

I understand that I'm not attractive to women.

I also understand I'm not entitled to women.

Let me say that again before somebody labels me entitled.

Oh I get that. Do you feel you want to be with someone?

 

[Mandarin Duck]

Oh I get that. Do you feel you want to be with someone?

I understand that I won't find someone, but I also would be lying if I said I was content being alone.

 

[Shadow King]

I'm not making assumptions at all. I've seem men with women on their arm where you'd be like there's no way he pulled her yet he did. Morbidly obese men, ugly men, the whole 9. I'm sure you've seen it too out there in the world.

It's one thing to say I'm not willing to do something because the experience is too painful for me personally. It's another to pretend as if you speak for an entire gender when based on maybe at tops several hundred encounters with billions (and likely not even several hundred) you act like you know all their thinking on anything.

There's a level of discomfort in saying I'm walking away from somethin because I can't do it that you never have to face if you blame others for your behavior and the choices you make.

You are making assumptions when you take his experiences and try to become an armchair psychologist because another man refuses to just accept the Just Be Better dogma.

Who else we've seen with women is irrelevant. I've said on here time and time again on this topic I'm sick of y'all using the Dollar Store Young Chop and Great Value Brittany Renner at the movies example when you don't know the mental/emotional/literal price paid for that man to be seen out in the wild with her.

Several hundred encounters is more than enough for a person to come to a conclusion about his rapport with another group of people. The idea that somebody needs 1 million people to form an opinion is silencing behavior.

If this is the case nobody has to listen to shìt you or any of the other posters have to say because there's no number to satisfy the quota in proper knowledge to make an experienced assumption. If it was said, "Women are looking for the man to make the first move", nobody would be sniffing out the number of approaches that person made to validate that.

He's already said he can't do it. That idea isn't mutually exclusive to how other people in your species shape your development. As someone in your 50s who actively is not dating you shouldn't be this antithetical towards dude. That right there shows how hive-minded and primally driven we still are as a species of animal who has outsmarted ourselves.

Why does he have to keep failing perpetually till he reaches your age before making the same decision you've made? Why is it so important to spend days arguing with him to spend another 2-3 decades trying in an aspect of life that simply isn't meant for him to flourish in?

 

[Payday23]

What about over 30

Try 40+. It's a wz out here.. honestly if guys are serious. Stack bread and move overseas if you don't like the options here

 

[Payday23]

I agree with this. The feminists, gays, and other are taking revenge against masculinity as a whole for what they done from the mid 00s and earlier decades, when they took a back seat and faced harsh punishment if they ever expressed, or even open themselves.

The problem is most of these women fell to realize they're going to lose in the long run if they want kids and marriage. If men are dropping out now why would they date these women when they're ready to settle down after these women hit 30+? There's going to be a childbirth collapse and the US is going the way of Japan. Women are going to learn the hard way. Men usually learn no one gaf about us early. Women will learn when they're older.

 

[winb83]

You are making assumptions when you take his experiences and try to become an armchair psychologist because another man refuses to just accept the Just Be Better dogma.

Who else we've seen with women is irrelevant. I've said on here time and time again on this topic I'm sick of y'all using the Dollar Store Young Chop and Great Value Brittany Renner at the movies example when you don't know the mental/emotional/literal price paid for that man to be seen out in the wild with her.

Several hundred encounters is more than enough for a person to come to a conclusion about his rapport with another group of people. The idea that somebody needs 1 million people to form an opinion is silencing behavior.

If this is the case nobody has to listen to shìt you or any of the other posters have to say because there's no number to satisfy the quota in proper knowledge to make an experienced assumption. If it was said, "Women are looking for the man to make the first move", nobody would be sniffing out the number of approaches that person made to validate that.

He's already said he can't do it. That idea isn't mutually exclusive to how other people in your species shape your development. As someone in your 50s who actively is not dating you shouldn't be this antithetical towards dude. That right there shows how hive-minded and primally driven we still are as a species of animal who has outsmarted ourselves.

Why does he have to keep failing perpetually till he reaches your age before making the same decision you've made? Why is it so important to spend days arguing with him to spend another 2-3 decades trying in an aspect of life that simply isn't meant for him to flourish in?

His opinion on how women feel about him is simply that.

I'm simply talking facts. The facts are this he was treated how he was treated by them and in response to that treatment he made a decision. He alone made that decision and no one else. This is not my opinion it is fact. He could have made multiple different decisions. The path he is currently on is the path he chose for himself based on what he encountered.

He could chosen other options even multiples of these or more:
I'm gonna take some time off and focus on me and later on down the line start getting at women again.
I'm never going to speak to another woman again.
I hate women they're all bytches and hoes and I'll talk shyt about them every chance I get.
I'll never stop shooting my shot and if they reject me so what I'll keep going.
I'm going to go online and start catfishing people.
I'll just continuously hire escorts when I get lonely.

I'm saying whatever the choice own that choice. A person will never get anywhere in life in general if they can't look at a situation even a bad one and evaluate what they have control over, the options they have, and the decisions they make.

There's nothing wrong with quitting. There is something wrong with quitting and acting like you didn't decide to quit it was forced on you. I don't think he will make the decision I made because I dated and felt hollow and unfulfilled by it. Same with having sex so I just stopped all of it. The difference is I'm the reason why not anybody else.

 

[Payday23]

I saw an article a couple days ago that argued men's anti social behavior fosters this descent by not going to college. College is one of the easiest environments to talk to women in. You get forced into social interactions with women via group projects, random interactions in class, dorm life, etc. It's easier to demonize and hate women when you are never talking to them. It's also easy to believe weird shyt about people you never interact with.

They've cut programs for boys and men.