Really Manny Pacquiao SMFH

[HamAndEgger]

No I'm saying he did, which has been well documented....................

Based on my previous post, I'm making a point that people aren't afraid to fight Floyd because they want the payday in relation to thinking Manny's ducking Floyd. I know Cotto got $8 Mill guarantee and ended up with about $13 Mill. What I'm saying is its not hard to see why someone like Pacquiao who made a killing on PPV himself would not take the fight because he wouldnt be receiving a share, especially when it's the biggest money fight in history. I mean, put yourselves in Manny's position...you really take that offer when you yourself are making big revenue off your own PPVs but won't collect any from your biggest fight? Just doesn't make sense.

 

[Black_Jesus]

And this is the crux of the situation..There is a difference of saying the right thing for. 23he sake of PR and actually putting it in writing and agreeing to it contractually.......

If he was down for the OSDT, he wouldn't even had commented on it because it would have been a non issue and already agreed to contractually....

What you fail to realize, was their were at least 3 negotiations.... in the very first negotiation in 2009 Pac wanted a 23 day cuttoff. .. Floyd camp was like "no....14 day cuttoff final offer.... pac eventually said "fukk it 14 day cuttoff" Floyd camp was like "no cuttoff blood testing all the way up until the fight"

By 2011 pac camp agreed to all blood testing... Floyd demnds switched up again... see the pattern.... now Floyd wants to just give pac (a top rank fighter) 40 million with ZERO revenue...

Now how can pac sign ANY contract if the money aint right man, think

 

[GMOGMediaTV]

Manny said it out of HIS OWN MOUTH. Yall nikkas REALLY dont follow boxing do you?





All 3 of yall


Once again, Manny already said he will accept the testing.

@Black Jesus....how do you argue with casual boxing fans everyday about Pac? These nikkas are blind Floyd riders and dont follow boxing close enough to be serious with them

You forget to point out the fact that this was manny renegotiating his stance
to fight mayweather from the original time they first started negotiating the deal during the end of 2009.

 

[Black_Jesus]

Based on my previous post, I'm making a point that people aren't afraid to fight Floyd because they want the payday in relation to thinking Manny's ducking Floyd. I know Cotto got $8 Mill guarantee and ended up with about $13 Mill. What I'm saying is its not hard to see why someone like Pacquiao who made a killing on PPV himself would not take the fight because he wouldnt be receiving a share, especially when it's the biggest money fight in history. I mean, put yourselves in Manny's position...you really take that offer when you yourself are making big revenue off your own PPVs but won't collect any from your biggest fight? Just doesn't make sense.

Cotto only recieved 2 extra million. .. $10 million total

That 13 million you're thinking of is what top rank offered Cotto to fight at 150 lbs

 

[Skip b]

What you fail to realize, was their were at least 3 negotiations.... in the very first negotiation in 2009 Pac wanted a 23 day cuttoff. .. Floyd camp was like "no....14 day cuttoff final offer.... pac eventually said "fukk it 14 day cuttoff" Floyd camp was like "no cuttoff blood testing all the way up until the fight"

By 2011 pac camp agreed to all blood testing... Floyd demnds switched up again... see the pattern.... now Floyd wants to just give pac (a top rank fighter) 40 million with ZERO revenue...

Now how can pac sign ANY contract if the money aint right man, think

So now the split was the problem and not that his inch cut that took 8 months to heal, that they had to build a temporary stadium, Mayweather would be in jail for their preferred date,etc...........

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

What you fail to realize, was their were at least 3 negotiations.... in the very first negotiation in 2009 Pac wanted a 23 day cuttoff. .. Floyd camp was like "no....14 day cuttoff final offer.... pac eventually said "fukk it 14 day cuttoff" Floyd camp was like "no cuttoff blood testing all the way up until the fight"

By 2011 pac camp agreed to all blood testing... Floyd demnds switched up again... see the pattern.... now Floyd wants to just give pac (a top rank fighter) 40 million with ZERO revenue...
Now how can pac sign ANY contract if the money aint right man, think

I remember the grievances from Manny's camp about the backend revenue and to Manny's defense, I think he was cuahgt up in some personal beef between Arum and Floyd. I don't believe any fighter was truly ducking one another perse', it just ending up being a pissing contest between Floyd and Arum.

But the way I see it, Floyd was just being a shrewd businessman. Regardless of what people said, Floyd was the box office draw, not Manny, and to top it off, Floyd was offering him 40 mil which would have been his biggest payday ever.... Manny hasn't made 40 mil combined off of his last 3 fights more than likely. I know he got 6 for Bradley and I think 8 for JMM.....

If Manny had agreed to take the 40 mil(like he probabaly wanted too but Arum wouldn't let that happen) I'm sure the conditions of the drug testing would have been agreed upon ASAP....

 

[Black_Jesus]

I remember the grievances from Manny's camp about the backend revenue and to Manny's defense, I think he was cuahgt up in some personal beef between Arum and Floyd. I don't believe any fighter was truly ducking one another perse', it just ending up being a pissing contest between Floyd and Arum.

But the way I see it, Floyd was just being a shrewd businessman. Regardless of what people said, Floyd was the box office draw, not Manny, and to top it off, Floyd was offering him 40 mil which would have been his biggest payday ever.... Manny hasn't made 40 mil combined off of his last 3 fights more than likely. I know he got 6 for Bradley and I think 8 for JMM.....

If Manny had agreed to take the 40 mil(like he probabaly wanted too but Arum wouldn't let that happen) I'm sure the conditions of the drug testing would have been agreed upon ASAP....

But that's the thing... when Floyd offered that 40mill flat rate he wasnt the biggest draw... Pac vs Marquez 3 drew in 89 million in revenue... Floyd/ortiz drew in 87million.. you can give or take a couple million, but that's pretty even.. asking pac to accept 40million zero revenue is equivalent to Floyd saying he don't want to fight....

Btw Pac was guarantees 26. Million vs Bradley and 22 mill vs JMM3

 

[Skip b]

But that's the thing... when Floyd offered that 40mill flat rate he wasnt the biggest draw... Pac vs Marquez 3 drew in 89 million in revenue... Floyd/ortiz drew in 87million.. you can give or take a couple million, but that's pretty even.. asking pac to accept 40million zero revenue is equivalent to Floyd saying he don't want to fight

Link please???


I'll wait...............

 

[Champ_KW]

What you fail to realize, was their were at least 3 negotiations.... in the very first negotiation in 2009 Pac wanted a 23 day cuttoff. .. Floyd camp was like "no....14 day cuttoff final offer.... pac eventually said "fukk it 14 day cuttoff" Floyd camp was like "no cuttoff blood testing all the way up until the fight"

By 2011 pac camp agreed to all blood testing... Floyd demnds switched up again... see the pattern.... now Floyd wants to just give pac (a top rank fighter) 40 million with ZERO revenue...

Now how can pac sign ANY contract if the money aint right man, think

Sounds like you fell for the Top Rank lip service. If they had no problem with testing in 2011, why did they fall back from that stance in his last fight after they started crying about Marquez working with Memo Heredia? Marquez and Memo offered to do testing if Pac did too, and well as you know....the fight went on without testing. So much for your "Pac is willing to test" stance. Fast forward to now...after getting slept by a fighter they questioned, Pac has a fight planned with another fighter associated with Memo...and guess what...testing is involved. So obviously Pac only "agreed" to testing until after he found out what a fighter "juiced up" can do to him.

 

[Black_Jesus]

Sounds like you fell for the Top Rank lip service. If they had no problem with testing in 2011, why did they fall back from that stance in his last fight after they started crying about Marquez working with Memo Heredia? Marquez and Memo offered to do testing if Pac did too, and well as you know....the fight went on without testing. So much for your "Pac is willing to test" stance. Fast forward to now...after getting slept by a fighter they questioned, Pac has a fight planned with another fighter associated with Memo...and guess what...testing is involved. So obviously Pac only "agreed" to testing until after he found out what a fighter "juiced up" can do to him.

So in your tiny little brain, you think that because Pac is going through with testing in his upcoming fight with rios but not with Marquez, somehow that proves he never agreed to testing with Floyd??

Good job not proving a point

 

[Black_Jesus]

So now the split was the problem and not that his inch cut that took 8 months to heal, that they had to build a temporary stadium, Mayweather would be in jail for their preferred date,etc...........

All that was after Floydie decided he has to keep all the revenue from their potential fight... having the fight in a stadium was one of the demands going all the way back to the 2009 negotiations

 

[TheProfessor]

Manny said it out of HIS OWN MOUTH. Yall nikkas REALLY dont follow boxing do you?





All 3 of yall


Once again, Manny already said he will accept the testing.

@Black Jesus....how do you argue with casual boxing fans everyday about Pac? These nikkas are blind Floyd riders and dont follow boxing close enough to be serious with them

That article is from 2-3 years after they began negotiations

 

[Black_Jesus]

 

[shopthatwrecks]

test or not floyd shoulda fought em anyway...

it would be bad on manny...afterwards when he is caught....n titles r stripped...

 

[Champ_KW]

So in your tiny little brain, you think that because Pac is going through with testing in his upcoming fight with rios but not with Marquez, somehow that proves he never agreed to testing with Floyd??

Good job not proving a point

Ok let's get this straight...

For his biggest possible fight (Floyd) he agrees to testing
For his 2nd biggest possible fight (JMM) he doesn't agree to testing
For his 3rd biggest possible fight (Bradley) he doesn't agree to testing
For his fight against someone nobody outside of die hard fans know, he agrees to testing...

Now that's very inconsistent for somebody who agreed to testing back in '09. But I guess it's only agreed upon for his biggest name opponent and his least named opponent since he left 135. Stop being a sheep.