Realistically, what was the last classic album?

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:rudy: shyt is a classic, cut it out. I would even go as far as to say thats the only certified certified classic in almost a decade. Its almost perfection in every way. I actually went to the store and bought this album it was so good but considering i own her whole catalog hardcopy i was gonna do it anyways.



it is not,..as a lot of the shyt on hear i heard better from sprinkles of experimentation by bjork when she was with her hubbie on her first record.

or ten inch singles that are obscure and lifted by esthero thinking no one hesrd that shyt before.

i already heard bjork make better albums in icelandic for xmas carols.

stop playing and get more robust listening.......

you hearing shyt like it before but i been hear shyt like thst before amd better, ages ago.

plus it was by a white chic and as a black performer. if you not surpassing a white chic in this medium. you can forget it as a draw,..or being called an innovator.

also,..like i said astra the weirding is the beat record in a long time in any genre, period.

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maybe The Carter 2.

to this day i've never listened to it but it seems like people constantly talk about it like it changed the game.



after we found out he did not write it,..this is no classic.

this is rap,..you can't have a classic without writing rhymes yourself.


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This

i called college dropout the last classic album in the true sense because everytime i play it it takes me back to my senior year in undergrad and i have memories attached to the album...the only album to come close after it to it was american gangster and only built for cuban linx 2...there have been more classic mixtapes than albums in the 8 years since college dropout though



is a four point you got in college by cheating a real four point...if the prof found out.

same here,..duke did not write one rhyme.

plus, his delivery and actual skill as a rapper was and is always lacking.

this is like the emo nikka version of overcast meets nwo,..

completely overprocessed because of a reality tie in.

that overprocesses a noob gateway market.

unfamiliar with a genre because of lack of mainstream permeation to properly judge it.

saying this is a classic defames and marginalizes all underground records and classics from the emo genre.

scapegoat and god's bathroom floor bites propelled dmx and jay to plat records.

an emo artist on rocafella would easily have gone plat as well.

as that is what happened in reality. as mainstream fans overprocessed and gave more undue unjust credit.
to an artist as a pioneer in a genre he did not pioneer.

how you nikka ignore slug and prop ye is beyound me...that is toy bullshyt.

also for nikkaz that overrate ye,..i know they were not around to be turned off by the likes sole, to sage francis.

to put ye in proper persepctive as an artist in his genre.

his is the top selling mainstream rtist in emo,..but he is incorrectly given precedent as the best in emo when he is not better than:

lo
brother ali
black milk
jay dee
slug
elzhi

as a producer/slash rapper he pales incomparison to:

juju
diamond d




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this record was so wack,..you had to wait till the next album of abomination wack rapping to get been about money.

been about money is the only good solo record this dude has, or probably ever will have in life.

as he is tied with puff, manny and ye as one of the worst ghostwritten voiceover rappers in the history of rap.



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Style's P coming in with "I used to move brown rectangles..." on Broken Safety alone >>>> everything else in here.



surgical gloves shyts on damn near every record made since then as well.

the gem intro on return of the northstar on obfcl ii is still knowledge wise about fifty years ahead of the game.

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papu wu: watch out for the trick baby,.......


man,...obfcl ii, is so real.........
 

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Hov - American Gangster last classic!!!:deadrose:


hell nah,..my puppies got harder softer shyt than this record.

this was one of the biggest ripoff albums ever.

without a readonable doubt, i will follow up this album was wack as phuck.
no real actual detail and no aggression whatsoever. named after a movie that starts with an extremely powerful murder scene.

let down central city status,.....

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their is only one good record on this:

ain't no love ho....

just this entire album sounds like a toy and culture thief trying to play up to being embraced by a culture he is not a part of.

it sounds ghostwritten to,..which is why i am glad the truth came out about this record and game's inability to write for real.


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yep... apart from the one where he did his emotional voice the rest of that shyt was a template album and all he had to do was fill in the blank with his garbage verses.
 

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hell hath no fury is one of the worst rap albums ever.

production and the vocal performances are wack and uninspired attempts to be cutting edge with a dull butterknifezz

shyt is the epitome of wackness and such a departure from their high four mic album,..it is a joke.



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i do not remember doughnuts like that but i know nikkas bit it and callthe bites classic on some bullshyt though.

i would have to re-listen to that,...funny thing is i am listening to come and get it.

is dillagence the instrumental album,..not the jaydee beat cd,..but the instrumentwl album..if so that was a classic. the jay dee beat cd was lacking..


HHNF has some of the Neptunes best work and The Clipse best lyrical performances. The atmosphere they created on this album managed to be dark and menacing, yet flashy at the same time which perfectly suits their "high-fashion, jet-setting drug dealer" persona.


Plus the shyt just knocks :yeshrug:



As far as Donuts, every single wannabe, YouTube-ass "producer" bites this shyt. Not to mention Kanye's beats on "Be" and "Finding Forever" and countless others I'm leaving out.

So it's hella influential, even if its for the worse most of the time.
 

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What are your thoughts on Marcberg, Art? A few spots drag but it's a pretty serious project.


i don't have it as my listening has been made more difficult now.

is that ric marcianno's latest record,...i don't have that.

haven't given him a spin cause his skills don't really catch me.

if i grab it for a review in hindsight cool.

yet i don't think he has improved to go that far out of my way.

does he rsmp upnas decent as drag-on when he was on uncut.

if not i will pass on that too.

nikkaz really don't dommuch for me skillwise lately....nikkaz spitting two and three syllable outdated shyt.

they all starting to sound like new school updated melle mel.

all the same skills shyt.

before the oldschool was ushered out to pasture.

is it better than method on 421 or black robb's robb report.....

of so i will gve it a spin if not,..i am deso.....



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HHNF has some of the Neptunes best work and The Clipse best lyrical performances. The atmosphere they created on this album managed to be dark and menacing, yet flashy at the same time which perfectly suits their "high-fashion, jet-setting drug dealer" persona.


Plus the shyt just knocks :yeshrug:



As far as Donuts, every single wannabe, YouTube-ass "producer" bites this shyt. Not to mention Kanye's beats on "Be" and "Finding Forever" and countless others I'm leaving out.

So it's hella influential, even if its for the worse most of the time.

that sh!t was so huff,....fat joe had three records at the same time making that bullshyt unlistenable.

pendemic, profit and she's my mami were killing that garbage.

that was the worst record that year.

anyone over processing it is becsuse they don't listen to trap music or like what good trap music really is.

the production on that record is trash and people who overrate it productionwise.

could not have heard no shawty red production. or knew much about the genre to properly rate hhnf accurrately.

that shyt is one of the huffest records ever released.

everthing about that album is garbage.


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yep... apart from the one where he did his emotional voice the rest of that shyt was a template album and all he had to do was fill in the blank with his garbage verses.

phuck that emotional voicd record too.

i was not feeling none of that album.

shyt is falsy overrated like cpo'a full album past ballad of a menAce.

another interscope gangata rap overprocressed marketing event.

phuck that record,....it ain't no love,..ho


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i think you should check it out. he's not as fluid as Meth or Rob but his pen game is strong. he's grown by leaps and bounds since his tenure with flipmode. you should also peep Ka.


http://youtu.be/QgDywe9k_V4


ka is cool,.....it is like a lesser skilled version of freddie fox's only ince used smooth delivery on the primo laced my thoughts.

i would rather hear fox spit like that record for his newdirextion in skills.

yet since he doesn't employ that vocal tone consistently. i wil have to wait and settle for the consolation prize.

i guess i just need more really technically advanced emcees to make me rate a record high.

or a more technical skilled producer first emcee guy,..to be appeased.


i would have given ka a spin and purchase instead of wack scaranga back in 2000.

that is how i feel about ka.

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