Berniewood Hogan
IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
HOW DO YOU RECOMMEND MAKING THIS ARENA ATTRACTIVE THOSE TYPES OF CONSERVATIVES, BROTHERS?
Real talk, I wish there were more "serious" conservative posters here
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we need to have an "invite a conservative day" and set out some lemonade and cookies.
Pitch the coli as a "sports site" with a solid "political"/"higher learning" subforum.
Mention nothing of the Hip hop.
Pitch the coli as a "sports site" with a solid "political"/"higher learning" subforum.
Mention nothing of the Hip hop.
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
And another thing, if I'm all about daps and preaching to the choir why am I practically begging new people to get on the podcast every time to hear different perspectives? I have personally asked Sly, Meta, and Kingpin to get on and I debated with Gundam up there twice and Sly once.
I welcome debate and differing opinions. You couldn't see me in a venue like that. You know you would get owned.
Def was not me because I haven't engaged in a ron paul debate in some time.........
Again, it wouldn't seem like such a beat down, if the muhfukkas stepping into the ring actually trained for their bout.
You're getting mad at the "liberals" on this board who pounce on weakness instead of the weakness itself.
I thought it was liberals who were in favor of a nanny state. But here all I'm hearing is, "Stop bullying them and allow a debate to take place." NO! Them nikkas should've gotten squashed out in the 08 election in the first place. At least I can sit here and admit I'm not about fukkn with the other side.
This is why we still have to put up with Fox. Because folks still consider "respecting" someone's right to be wrong as sufficient reason to allow them to speak. No nikka, if you're wrong, you're wrong. Why do you we allow folks to be wrong just because we don't wanna seem like we're attacking them. Tell them nikkas to grow a sack and go pillow talk with their chick.
While y'all are sitting here waiting 6-8 yrs for someone to intellectually grow, they're out there supporting parties and ideas that are going to take 10-20 yrs to destroy. I shouldn't have to wait til my children's lifetime to get rid of some shyt that we disproved back in 2005.
And conversations like these are exactly why "moderates" get to sneak through the cracks as "wise" "responsible" and "level headed." fukk outta here, them nikkas just don't want to sound mean. Stop defending nikkas you don't agree with.
this is the proof you rely on???
most ppl are black
most ppl are in their early 20s
this is that simplification of non conservatives, that keeps them muhfukkas alive
you've just given power to their "those blacks and those youths" are against us mentality
This is the foolishness I'm talking about. You're so liberal and biased that you won't hear reason. Honestly, if we weren't so against moderators having aliases on this forum I would create a conservative alias just to shut your shyt down and make you all actually have to defend your positions properly. Look at this weak garbage you just posted and then the weak shyt before that.
"At least we admit that we don't fukk with them."
"This is the simplification of conservatives." No, he just broke down demographics. He's making the point that post people here would veer to the left, is that any reason not to engage? No. But it's cause for concern as to whether individuals would even hear you out. Thus, it's pointless to even bother posting when people like you post what you just did.
The worst part is that you all circle-jerk and dap each other up and think you've made some stunning analysis. No, you didn't say anything.
This is what you just said a post ago essentially, "It's the fact that people think we have to be civil and respect others opinions that allows Fox News to exist....blah blah blah...liberal complaint without actually putting things into proper perspective."
No, Fox News is allowed to exist because democratic President Bill Clinton signed the Telecommunications Act which allowed for these large media conglomerates and for companies like Viacom to own so many different networks. Not only did the bill allow for them to exist, it subsidized them. Fox News exist because Bill Clinton and Congress sold people out. Etc., etc. shyt, that a big part of why he won the damn election, because all those companies lined up to fund him after he was at the forefront of that shyt.
But let's take you at your word, again you said, "The fact we take everyone's opinions at face value is why we have these problems." No, the problem is that their opinions are unchecked. What is more effective, sitting here and whining or saying, "If we take your opinion as true, then...such such and such thing would occur, but it had not because such, such and such...therefore on these grounds your opinion is not valid because it is not grounded in reality." Fox News problem isn't in that it preaches garbage, it's in the fact that it does not allow contrarian opinions a fair day and when they are on there, they are attacked, misrepresented, overgeneralized and tossed aside.
Exactly what you're doing. No, one would say anything about Fox News if they allowed themselves to get sonned by those who don't share their perspectives on a daily basis. They bring up caricatured representations of the other side. It's like those weak ass conservatives that Bill Maher has on his show.
This is the foolishness I'm talking about. You're so liberal and biased that you won't hear reason. Honestly, if we weren't so against moderators having aliases on this forum I would create a conservative alias just to shut your shyt down and make you all actually have to defend your positions properly. Look at this weak garbage you just posted and then the weak shyt before that.
"At least we admit that we don't fukk with them."
"This is the simplification of conservatives." No, he just broke down demographics. He's making the point that post people here would veer to the left, is that any reason not to engage? No. But it's cause for concern as to whether individuals would even hear you out. Thus, it's pointless to even bother posting when people like you post what you just did.
The worst part is that you all circle-jerk and dap each other up and think you've made some stunning analysis. No, you didn't say anything.
This is what you just said a post ago essentially, "It's the fact that people think we have to be civil and respect others opinions that allows Fox News to exist....blah blah blah...liberal complaint without actually putting things into proper perspective."
No, Fox News is allowed to exist because democratic President Bill Clinton signed the Telecommunications Act which allowed for these large media conglomerates and for companies like Viacom to own so many different networks. Not only did the bill allow for them to exist, it subsidized them. Fox News exist because Bill Clinton and Congress sold people out. Etc., etc. shyt, that a big part of why he won the damn election, because all those companies lined up to fund him after he was at the forefront of that shyt.
But let's take you at your word, again you said, "The fact we take everyone's opinions at face value is why we have these problems." No, the problem is that their opinions are unchecked. What is more effective, sitting here and whining or saying, "If we take your opinion as true, then...such such and such thing would occur, but it had not because such, such and such...therefore on these grounds your opinion is not valid because it is not grounded in reality." Fox News problem isn't in that it preaches garbage, it's in the fact that it does not allow contrarian opinions a fair day and when they are on there, they are attacked, misrepresented, overgeneralized and tossed aside.
Exactly what you're doing. No, one would say anything about Fox News if they allowed themselves to get sonned by those who don't share their perspectives on a daily basis. They bring up caricatured representations of the other side. It's like those weak ass conservatives that Bill Maher has on his show.
his main idea was that us being black and in our 20s was cause for our loyalty to obama
stop reducing a muhfukkas ability to connect, to a God damn social demographic comparison
His point had nothing to do with policy or experience or insight into the world.
What are you talking about. Stop defending a nikka just to defend a fukkn point. Stop defending a nikka just because you believe in his right to speak. Defend what the fukk that nikka is saying. Period.
There's nothing else for me to say here. This is like the second thread you've come through on some high and mighty shyt for no fukkn reason (the first was the stop dissing religion thread).
In every thread, every fukkn thread, we shyt on republicans and we shyt on blind ass democrats.
Nobody in here fukks with the repubs, but we ALL have different reasons for why we don't fukk with democrats. How can you/y'all not see this?
Just 2 weeks ago TUH and VVD got into a 2 page battle over Obama. Just 2 weeks ago I called VVD out for instigating shyt on religion but being hypocritical about TUH egging ppl on about the use of drones. You act like everybody is peaches and cream in this bytch on issues. Stop misrepresenting this shyt just so you can feel like "the wise one."
The same democrats that ride on republicans during the Mitt Romney blunders, argue with the atheist when a religion thread pops up
The fukk are y'all talking about???
Do we need to up the gay rights threads???
The HL is not one collaborative left wing arm of Obama.
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
This is the foolishness I'm talking about. You're so liberal and biased that you won't hear reason. Honestly, if we weren't so against moderators having aliases on this forum I would create a conservative alias just to shut your shyt down and make you all actually have to defend your positions properly. Look at this weak garbage you just posted and then the weak shyt before that.
"At least we admit that we don't fukk with them."
"This is the simplification of conservatives." No, he just broke down demographics. He's making the point that post people here would veer to the left, is that any reason not to engage? No. But it's cause for concern as to whether individuals would even hear you out. Thus, it's pointless to even bother posting when people like you post what you just did.
The worst part is that you all circle-jerk and dap each other up and think you've made some stunning analysis. No, you didn't say anything.
This is what you just said a post ago essentially, "It's the fact that people think we have to be civil and respect others opinions that allows Fox News to exist....blah blah blah...liberal complaint without actually putting things into proper perspective."
No, Fox News is allowed to exist because democratic President Bill Clinton signed the Telecommunications Act which allowed for these large media conglomerates and for companies like Viacom to own so many different networks. Not only did the bill allow for them to exist, it subsidized them. Fox News exist because Bill Clinton and Congress sold people out. Etc., etc. shyt, that a big part of why he won the damn election, because all those companies lined up to fund him after he was at the forefront of that shyt.
But let's take you at your word, again you said, "The fact we take everyone's opinions at face value is why we have these problems." No, the problem is that their opinions are unchecked. What is more effective, sitting here and whining or saying, "If we take your opinion as true, then...such such and such thing would occur, but it had not because such, such and such...therefore on these grounds your opinion is not valid because it is not grounded in reality." Fox News problem isn't in that it preaches garbage, it's in the fact that it does not allow contrarian opinions a fair day and when they are on there, they are attacked, misrepresented, overgeneralized and tossed aside.
Exactly what you're doing. No, one would say anything about Fox News if they allowed themselves to get sonned by those who don't share their perspectives on a daily basis. They bring up caricatured representations of the other side. It's like those weak ass conservatives that Bill Maher has on his show.
Uh, if you're gonna keep typing these blustery, high-on-sanctimonious rhetoric, low on facts essays from your high horse, you could at least not be a hypocrite and defend your claims. You leveled leveled a critique of my initial post that was wholly erroneous. I addressed it and you won't even respond. Practice what you're preaching.
And since when are you of all people the gatekeeper of debating ettiquette? You seem angry and uptight as fukk every time you argue and you constantly cuss people out for not dikkriding Jay-Z like you or saying something you don't like about the Lakers or the Patriots. I remember I was making fun of your comments overrating the Lakers and Ramon Sessions during the NBA playoffs not too long ago and you got all furious and started talking about how I look. All of a sudden you're the paragon of tact and respectful debating? fukk outta here.
... so true
Yeah, people cannot handle real conservative answers here.
You hear about how Romney is a rich fat cat and how he paid a lower income tax rate. Okay, that's true. Then, when you tell them that Obama is rich, and so is Bill Clinton and a bunch of other Democrats. I'm talking totally f-in loaded, they are like
they's is rich??? And then, they become ghosts. Zero rebuttals.They can't handle the truth.
Berniewood Hogan
IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
PEOPLE ARE PERFECTLY AWARE OF THE FACT THAT TOP DEMOCRATS ARE WELL-OFF, BUT TO COMPARE THE OBAMAS' WEALTH TO THE ROMNEY FAMILY'S IS A BIT OF A STRETCH, BROTHER! BARACK AND MICHELLE LIVED THE AMERICAN DREAM OF GOING FROM NOBODY TO SOMEBODY THROUGH THEIR OWN HARD WORK! ROMNEY INHERITED WEALTH AND THEN fukkED THE WORKING CLASS TO ENRICH HIMSELF, DUDE!
Berniewood Hogan
IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
Thought You Were A Republican
HOLLYWOOD'S INDEPENDENT, BROTHER! I OFFERED A DEVIL'S ADVOCATE ARGUMENT FOR NEO-CONSERVATISM IN THIS THREAD BECAUSE IT WAS REQUESTED, DUDE!
I'LL LEAD THE NWO VOTING BLOC TOWARD WHOEVER HAS "THE STROKE" BROTHER!
Yeah, people cannot handle real conservative answers here.
You hear about how Romney is a rich fat cat and how he paid a lower income tax rate. Okay, that's true. Then, when you tell them that Obama is rich, and so is Bill Clinton and a bunch of other Democrats. I'm talking totally f-in loaded, they are like
They can't handle the truth.
Romney being rich isn't really the issue. Most politicians are rich.
It's more the fact that he's a rich guy who that wants to lower taxes for himself and other rich guys.
Can you prove Mitt Romney inherited his wealth? He came from a rich family, but he was a successful business man to get his wealth.
As CEO of the Salt Lake Organizing Committee, he turned the 2002 Winter Olympics financial situation from getting out of debt and into the black. How many working class people benefitted from that? A lot of cities that host the Olympics go into financial ruin because it was a short-term event and they have all these expensive buildings and infrastructure that doesn't get reused after the Olympics are done. That didn't happen in Salt Lake City. That helps everyone in Salt Lake City area, not just himself. If he was all about greed, they would have still been in the red; unemployment and debt would have ruin the city. Not the case.
As for personal financial gain in lieu of helping the working class, look at John Kerry. He's the wealthiest Democrat. Fat cat? Yes. Did he earn it? Nope. He found a sugar mama. Does that make it okay? I guess, if your a Democrat who doesn't want to look at his income tax return and see how much his income tax rate was. Oh, he makes earnings off investments that get taxed at 14% just like Romney. Hmm, and didn't Kerry run for President? Yes. Did his income tax return get scrutinized? Nope.
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