Real talk, how come Jordan's name isn't brought up in the GOAT shooter conversations?

[Art Barr]

Jordan wasn't hitting a crazy clip of his jumpshots though. We don't know his exact numbers, but just look at his FG% and that should tell you enough.

MJ only shot 51% on two-pointers for his career. He probably shot about 70% or better at the rim. So he must have been shooting at a below-average clip from midrange to pull his overall average all the way down to 51%. Especially since he didn't start weighting his shots towards the midrange until later in his career.

There's no way you can tell me that MJ finished at an elite level at the rim, and made an elite level of his midrange shots, and still only shot 51% on his twos.

Ya'all mix the very late MJ who worked on his midrange shot extensively (and still wasn't at a GOAT shooter's level) with the early MJ who spent most of his career at the rim and was a mediocre shooter at best. The ESPN/NBA narrative hyped his shooting up way more than deserved. Even in his prime shooting years, there were an awful lot of 7-21 and 13-30 games.

You want to compare? Reggie Miller, Steph Curry, and Steve Nash all made 52% of their two-point shots for their career, and they got to the rim FAR less than Jordan and weren't finishing at the rim as well as MJ either. So their midrange jumpers had to be much more wet than Jordan's to lift their 2pt% over his. Mark Price made 50% of his twos, John Stockton made 54% of his. Again, these are guys who weren't getting to the rim as much or finishing as well there, so how can they be shooting like MJ from two-point range unless their midrange is MUCH better?

You really need to go watch mj.
As it is evident none of you nikkaz with this bullshyt have not watched mj play.
Start from the first game till the end. Till you do you do not know basketball, period.


Art Barr

 

[MJ Truth]

Jordan stans in here being insecure per usual.

 

[rbksNgirbauds]

Jordan stans in here being insecure per usual.

Point em out and point out how....its just the internet, no need to be scared and hide behind vagueness

 

[MikelArteta]

‘96 and ‘97 had the shortened 3 point line. No one would even dare shoot 2’s today if they did that again.

As a midrange shooter, I’d probably put him #1.

NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE, is close to Steph overall though.

and yet here was MJ

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

Larry bird shot only slightly better from the line career and he was a shooter



Try harder cac

Bird shot 88% from the line, with 5 seasons over 90%

"only slightly better"

 

[Tommy Sheppard]

jordan is the GOAT midrange shooter.

 

[MoneyTron]

and yet here was MJ

What's your point?

That would be considered in the midrange today.

 

[MoneyTron]

Jordan wasn't hitting a crazy clip of his jumpshots though. We don't know his exact numbers, but just look at his FG% and that should tell you enough.

MJ only shot 51% on two-pointers for his career. He probably shot about 70% or better at the rim. So he must have been shooting at a below-average clip from midrange to pull his overall average all the way down to 51%. Especially since he didn't start weighting his shots towards the midrange until later in his career.

There's no way you can tell me that MJ finished at an elite level at the rim, and made an elite level of his midrange shots, and still only shot 51% on his twos.

Ya'all mix the very late MJ who worked on his midrange shot extensively (and still wasn't at a GOAT shooter's level) with the early MJ who spent most of his career at the rim and was a mediocre shooter at best. The ESPN/NBA narrative hyped his shooting up way more than deserved. Even in his prime shooting years, there were an awful lot of 7-21 and 13-30 games.

Actually he was hitting an insane amount of jumpers at high clip during his later years. What's really weird is that he was not finishing well around the basket AT ALL.

NBA.com actually has shooting stats from his last years with the Bulls.

If their numbers are accurate, I have no problem calling him the one of, if not the best midrange shooter.

But in no case is he better than Steph in any sense shooting wise.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Jordan could get hot from three. Streaky shooter. Retards will only look at percentages but there were games like against Portland when he was unconscious. If the strategy was to sit around and shoot nothing but 3's MJ would have adapted and been at least a 40% shooter.

If that's how the game was played, he'd do it. Still the GOAT. Don't mention any other names in the convo.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Jordan shot 32% from 3 for his career.

Look at this dumb posting

 

[The_Sheff]

Why can't people admit someone like Steph Curry is a better shooter than Jordan? Damn, are you that insecure that is bothers you that someone may be better at something than Jordan?

 

[NormanConnors]

because the coli has an agenda straight up/thinking the 3 ball is the holy grail of all shooting.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Why can't people admit someone like Steph Curry is a better shooter than Jordan? Damn, are you that insecure that is bothers you that someone may be better at something than Jordan?

There are a lot of great three point shooters. Steph is the best. But he's not even in Jordan's class as a player so I doubt anyone is insecure about it. If anything, it's the younger generation that is insecure because Steph is so easily dismissed.

 

[NormanConnors]

Jordan could get hot from three. Streaky shooter. Retards will only look at percentages but there were games like against Portland when he was unconscious. If the strategy was to sit around and shoot nothing but 3's MJ would have adapted and been at least a 40% shooter.

If that's how the game was played, he'd do it. Still the GOAT. Don't mention any other names in the convo.

 

[cobra]

Jordan's True Shooting Percentage was 56.9%

All elite shooters should have at least greater than 58

in fact steph, harden and kd are all above 60