When faced with the facts and data you requested (before knowing it was already presented) you react in this way??? Typical. Divorce rate is something that cannot realistically be disputed or blamed on the white man. Black men's marriages with BLACK WOMEN (the most common marriage for them) typically fails. I don't know why it's too much of a stretch for you to imagine their marriages to non-black women also failing and being more likely to fail than those involving a black woman. Furthermore, these studies didn't just single out black men or try to make them look bad. They also shot white women down as well because they pointed out that white women's unions with non-white males (excluding, white Hispanics) don't last either. White men, for all their faults, seem to be better able to maintain relationships/marriages than their white counterparts...but I guess according to your logic this information is incorrect and "placing blame on the white woman." These studies are just trying to "make the white woman look bad." These studies are just trying to "keep the white woman down." LMAO! Please come with a better argument. ^^^This is not a valid argument. You asked how did I know BLACK MEN don't value culture or anything of value in life. I pointed out their self-destructive ways (in multiple regions of the world) and lack of value for LIFE. Quite simply, if you have a group of men who don't value the life of other black people, how the hell can you expect them to value black culture???? Sorry this is an apples and oranges comparison (one that I would expect the idiots on this site to make). Beauty is SUBJECTIVE (meaning it's a matter of OPINION). It CANNOT be measured, which is why the Asian guy that produced that "study" (something it was not) caught so much flack. It was essentially HIS (and anyone else he asked) OPINION on beauty (again, beauty is subjective..OPINIONS on it will vary from person to person...and it cannot be measured because it is based on OPINION).
The divorce rate in this country and the divorce rate for interracial couples can be measured with actual DATA (raw numbers, percentages etc). It can be studied over time. It cannot be disputed. It is concrete. ^^^This doesn't make any damn sense (as usual). Saying black men's marriages with non-black women aren't likely to last or don't last very long (without comparing them to any other relationships) can be backed up with data. It is not fodder dumbarse. Pointing out the reality that black men's marriages with black women (without comparing to other marriages) are troubled is not fodder either. It proves one HUGE reality: When it comes to maintaining a marriage, regardless of the race of women, black men generally suck.
Your point would only be a valid one if I were comparing the outcome of black women marriages to non-black men to black men's marriages to non-black women (something I try NOT to do...unless forced to do...and by force, I mean when black men try to make it seem as if black women are no marriageable when truth be told, black women don't have a problem sustaining relationships/marriages with men who aren't black or a better example would be when black men say some shyt like, "This is why brothers are choosing white women"...yet they can't seem to make it last with those white women). Instead of comparing the two, I have simply maintained that black women's marriages with non-black men are some of the most stable unions...while pointing out that black men's marriages to non-black women don't last. Both of these statements are FACTUAL. Notice I didn't compare one to the other. A comparison would be me saying, "Black women/White men unions last longer than black men/white women unions." And no, I'm not saying I haven't done this at some point...I'm saying it's not generally part of my talking points. I have maintained that black women's marriages to non-black men are stable. That has been ONE of my main points throughout this thread (refer to my comments with blackking).
At the end of the day tho, these "studies" aren't the end-all-be-all for determinin' that "Black men suck" or that BW/WM relationships are the most stable, etc. Not sayin' this data shouldn't be considered, and given some validation, but to treat these studies as definitive proof of anything is naïve imo. And I'm not blamin' the White man, or tryna refute the data per se, all I'm doin' is tryna analyze the data as a whole, and takin' things w/ a grain of salt, not just blindly focusin'/agreein' with the end result.
And u do not have any kind of proof to say that "most" Black men dont care about education or anything else of value. To say some would be comprehensible, but to say most or all is @ best subjective criticism. There's obviously no convincin' each other of this point, so let's just leave it @ that.