Raw gets abysmal lowest non-NFL rating since 1996. What would you do to turn it around?

[dh86]

Get the title off Brock.

That or do what they have to in getting Brock back from sasketchewan. Having a guy fukkoff with the belt for months is horrible business

 

[dh86]

Isn't it true that ratings matter very little in this day and age? The Monday Night Wars are over and this company is doing great business regardless of TV ratings. Ratings talk is just dirt sheet filler for guys that still think, or wish, it is the 90s.

Unless I was getting pressure from USA, I would worry more about quality than a 2017 cable rating.

USA overall ratings have plummeted. It was once the highest rated network on cable. Even at current level, WWE keeping them afloat

 

[dh86]

As for what will fix it.. all these little minor fixes are just internet chit chat and won't mean shyt. Give the belt to this guy, hire this guy, do that. Nah. At the end of the day the ONLY thing that will make a difference is compelling characters and stories. Larger than life characters. That's what casual fans want. That's why they are drawn to guys like McGregor and Mayweather. Someone who flips the station and sees fukkin Finn Balor standing in the ring holding a mic is gonna change that channel with a quickness.

5'9 155 lb Conor Mcgregor
5'8 154 lb Floyd Mayweather

I was told by the coli that we need more 6'5 300 lb guys with crew cuts! Airports! Something ain't adding up.

 

[Jmare007]

You don't need luck when you can create your own. UFC lucked into Rousey & Conor, WWE can make their own stars, stories, and situations however they see fit. They just don't.

You don't need luck to book a compelling product and you can't get lucky if you book as conservatively as WWE has in the past decade. That I completely agree with.

But luck is 100% necessary if you want to turn business around and have any sort of "boom" period.

Wrestling history has shown time and time again that there's no formula to create something or somebody special enough to draw big numbers. I think Cena is the most manufactured star they've ever had and that "formula" hasn't worked with nobody else. Not to mention the countless other wrestlers and angles that were once draws and promotions couldn't repeat the same success. You just have to give people chances and once he/she hits jackpot (for whatever reason) do everything in your power to promote and book the fukk out of it and make the most out of.

 

[Buggsy Mogues]

5'9 155 lb Conor Mcgregor
5'8 154 lb Floyd Mayweather

I was told by the coli that we need more 6'5 300 lb guys with crew cuts! Airports! Something ain't adding up.

Being small matters in WWE because it's pre-determined and the guy who makes the decisions doesn't believe small guys should believably be able to compete with the bigger guys. McGregor and Mayweather don't have to worry about that. So given that bias that already exists, if you're going to be a small you need a big personality. None of these lil dudes in WWE have even a 10th of the charisma of those two.

 

[Da King]

5'9 155 lb Conor Mcgregor
5'8 154 lb Floyd Mayweather

I was told by the coli that we need more 6'5 300 lb guys with crew cuts! Airports! Something ain't adding up.

they have CHARISMA you fukkin mark


there is more character in Mayeather or McGregor's pinky than the entire wrasslin scene today, especially these indie clowns who have ZERO character besides just wanting to fight and be tweeners

 

[dh86]

Being small matters in WWE because it's pre-determined and the guy who makes the decisions doesn't believe small guys should believably be able to compete with the bigger guys. McGregor and Mayweather don't have to worry about that. So given that bias that already exists, if you're going to be a small you need a big personality. None of these lil dudes in WWE have even a 10th of the charisma of those two.

WWE could have had AJ Styles a decade ago but didn't because size and hick accent. Look at him now. Ironic that Paul Levesque is the one that broke down the barrier with the size bullshyt. When it's fake, then size shouldn't be a factor at all because you write the stories. We can't look at no one giving a shyt about UFC heavyweights & boxing heavyweights not being on PPV since 2003 then telling me size matters. It means WWE is doing something wrong.

 

[Spyro]

Most of this was already covered in thread but yeah basically these guys are out of touch

The writers backstage can't make compelling stories for some reason, they don't make us care for any of these guys

Most of the stories are basically "I want this title because I'm better than you" and the feuds without titles are meaningless, some feuds back then that didn't have a title involved were classic. They just don't make you give a shyt about watching next week.

I also think you shouldn't be signing ALL these indy guys if they can't talk, or have no purpose on the show besides providing good matches. Give them managers or some dope video packages, not everybody on your roster should be Dean Malenko.

Scripted promos are ass, they are so micro managed you gotta name shyt in order every time you talk, everybody goes through the motions, everybody gets half cheered half booed, this shyt terrible

I'll also add that we barely/if ever get that big fight feel anymore where it keep us guessing who is gonna win a match. I'll say the last time we genuinely got that was Punk/Cena MITB.

Lesnar/Goldberg at Survivor Series was a big fight feel, that match was hyped up as fukk, lots of guys at my workplace in their 30's who haven't watched in months/years all tuned in to Raw/SS when Goldberg was on and talking about it every day. I know the match was only 90 seconds but the build up and entrances during the match was crazy, like the good ol days


Remember everyone saying the Shield triple threat should/is gonna main event Mania one day? We got that at a PPV last year and it felt flat on it's ass

 

[dh86]

they have CHARISMA you fukkin mark


there is more character in Mayeather or McGregor's pinky than the entire wrasslin scene today, especially these indie clowns who have ZERO character besides just wanting to fight and be tweeners

Being an indie star without charisma is impossible. It takes a next level ability to connect to not get shyt on by overly cynical fans. You don't know what charisma is, do you?

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

Blow up the writing team

They got great workers but no stories for these guys

Also, get a fukking clue, absentee world champs are moronic. Lesar being the universal champ on his farm hurts the company

Get edgier as well, raw is very vanilla

 

[Da King]

Being an indie star without charisma is impossible. It takes a next level ability to connect to not get shyt on by overly cynical fans. You don't know what charisma is, do you?

this isn't charisma, it's KKKenny Omega being corny, that's why they the casuals not checking for the product besides the marks who are watching regardless

 

[Buggsy Mogues]

WWE could have had AJ Styles a decade ago but didn't because size and hick accent. Look at him now. Ironic that Paul Levesque is the one that broke down the barrier with the size bullshyt. When it's fake, then size shouldn't be a factor at all because you write the stories. We can't look at no one giving a shyt about UFC heavyweights & boxing heavyweights not being on PPV since 2003 then telling me size matters. It means WWE is doing something wrong.

But on the other hand Conor McGregor isn't fighting Stipe Miocic.. he's fighting guys in his own weight class. So UFC isn't asking you to believe that Conor McGregor is the toughest guy in the entire world.

So it's different than asking us to Finn Balor vs. Brock is a legit match. And even if it was McGregor vs. Brock, he could at least have enough charisma and promo skills to make you believe he had a punchers chance.

 

[dh86]

this isn't charisma, it's KKKenny Omega being corny, that's why they the casuals not checking for the product besides the marks who are watching regardless

After 45 years, New Japan has expanded into the United States on his back.

......casual

 

[dh86]

But on the other hand Conor McGregor isn't fighting Stipe Miocic.. he's fighting guys in his own weight class. So UFC isn't asking you to believe that Conor McGregor is the toughest guy in the entire world.

So it's different than asking us to Finn Balor vs. Brock is a legit match. And even if it was McGregor vs. Brock, he could at least have enough charisma and promo skills to make you believe he had a punchers chance.

But it's fake so you can always have the guys who can talk and have charisma at the top. The Brock/Punk interactions pre match looked ridiculous and the build was lackluster. The match was awesome because they worked hard at making it look good. Brock and Finn can have an awesome match if they both try.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

3 hours is overkill.

its one of the reasons wcw nitro fell off, and that show was way better than these raw shows.