Ratings For Christmas Day NFL & NBA Games Discussion

[FTBS]

When I think of improvements I’m talking making divisions matter more, better promotion of young stars/teams beyond the usual suspects, the way the game is reffed, etc.

I don’t think there’s anything they can do to catch the NFL in the U.S. nor should they be trying to. The NBA has its own lane and that’s fine.

Def need to push young stars more. Those guys gotta snatch the torch too though. Like Minny and OKC have bubbled up this year. If they fall off this year or next year what is there to promote? Remember Steph was 5 years deep before he took over the world on a 67 win championship team.

How much can divisions matter when you have 10 playoff teams per conference? Some of the issues the league has go back to the days of them trying to force shyt. They had 16 playoff teams in a 23 team league.

They implemented zone and outlawed touching on the perimeter to open the game up and increase scoring. The skill and athleticism and spamming has made it ridiculous. Could definitely use adjustments there.

Appreciate the thoughtful dialogue breh.

 

[HandyWithTheSteel]

Fans don't really argue about fukking Sam Howell and Jalen Hurts lol.... It's Washington and Philly. Will always be a rivalry. Fans will always care.

Fans don't argue about Goff and Cousins. It's the Vikings and Lions. Will always be a rivalry.

NBA chose to put players above teams and it cost them.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. You’re just saying cliches that you think sound good.

The NBA has been marketing players over teams since literally it’s inception when there were no nikkas.

And that’s exactly why the NBA is more globally popular than NFL. shyt, MLB is more popular globally than NFL which why both league generate way more money.

The rest of the world looks at NFL the way America looks at soccer.

 

[concise]

Def need to push young stars more. Those guys gotta snatch the torch too though. Like Minny and OKC have bubbled up this year. If they fall off this year or next year what is there to promote? Remember Steph was 5 years deep before he took over the world on a 67 win championship team.

How much can divisions matter when you have 10 playoff teams per conference? Some of the issues the league has go back to the days of them trying to force shyt. They had 16 playoff teams in a 23 team league.

They implemented zone and outlawed touching on the perimeter to open the game up and increase scoring. The skill and athleticism and spamming has made it ridiculous. Could definitely use adjustments there.

Appreciate the thoughtful dialogue breh.

They could start with guaranteeing playoff spots for all division winners like they used to. Up the stakes of the NBA Cup and give the winner an automatic playoff spot ...

just a start

 

[mastermind]

You have no idea what you’re talking about. You’re just saying cliches that you think sound good.

The NBA has been marketing players over teams since literally it’s inception when there were no nikkas.

And that’s exactly why the NBA is more globally popular than NFL. shyt, MLB is more popular globally than NFL which why both league generate way more money.

The rest of the world looks at NFL the way America looks at soccer.

Indeed

Wilt Chamberlain was a huge star before the NBA. The nature of the sport means one guy will garner attention.

The NFL has low key done this with the QB position but they make it hard for QBs to change teams.

 

[FTBS]

They could start with guaranteeing playoff spots for all division winners like they used to. Up the stakes of the NBA Cup and give the winner an automatic playoff spot ...

just a start

What are the chances that you win a division and dont land in the top 8? But I dont mind the suggestion.

I am all for rewarding the Cup winner. My suggestion was a booster. So lets say you win 45 games you get treated like you won 50 and tiebreakers over everybody that won 50 or fewer games.

Honestly if you aint cutting the playoff field (the only logical way to boost regular season urgency) then I am up for whatever. Thats why I dont mind the play in.

 

[mastermind]

They could start with guaranteeing playoff spots for all division winners like they used to. Up the stakes of the NBA Cup and give the winner an automatic playoff spot ...

just a start

You mean home court advantage in the first round

 

[The_Sheff]

You have no idea what you’re talking about. You’re just saying cliches that you think sound good.

The NBA has been marketing players over teams since literally it’s inception when there were no nikkas.

And that’s exactly why the NBA is more globally popular than NFL. shyt, MLB is more popular globally than NFL which why both league generate way more money.

The rest of the world looks at NFL the way America looks at soccer.

The NFL makes much more in revenue than the NBA and MLB even with them playing thousands of more games per season. MLB is second and the NFL makes 7 billion more in revenue than them.

The EPL in total only generates about 6 billion in revenue. The NFL generates almost TRIPLE that. That should give you a scale on how far the NFL is above the rest of the competition

If the NFL started making as much money as the more international sports leagues the commissioner would be fired immediately for gross negligence.

 

[concise]

What are the chances that you win a division and dont land in the top 8? But I dont mind the suggestion.

I am all for rewarding the Cup winner. My suggestion was a booster. So lets say you win 45 games you get treated like you won 50 and tiebreakers over everybody that won 50 or fewer games.

Honestly if you aint cutting the playoff field (the only logical way to boost regular season urgency) then I am up for whatever. Thats why I dont mind the play in.

There have been times when division winners were near the bottom of the top 8, but I want them automatically in the main playoff field and not to be in the play-in at all. An example would be last year's Heat not being in the play-in at all due to being division champions.






Honestly, if it were up to me, I'd use the cup and ramp the fukkery all the way up and automatically give all 8 quarterfinalists the play-in spots, with play-in spots passing on to other teams ONLY if those quarterfinalists earn their way into the main field.

See how many teams lollygag in the middle of the season then.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Def need to push young stars more. Those guys gotta snatch the torch too though. Like Minny and OKC have bubbled up this year. If they fall off this year or next year what is there to promote? Remember Steph was 5 years deep before he took over the world on a 67 win championship team.

How much can divisions matter when you have 10 playoff teams per conference? Some of the issues the league has go back to the days of them trying to force shyt. They had 16 playoff teams in a 23 team league.

They implemented zone and outlawed touching on the perimeter to open the game up and increase scoring. The skill and athleticism and spamming has made it ridiculous. Could definitely use adjustments there.

Appreciate the thoughtful dialogue breh.

Calling traveling, carrying moving screens and getting rid of defensive 3 seconds would go a long way in fixing the in game issues

 

[charknicks]

All of the noise that networks need to try and add more NBA games on network TV (ABC) just doesnt make sense.

To all of those that are saying the ratings dont matter, they are hella important. The ratings determine if the network will add or subtract more games. They arent gonna take up more of their weekly space if no one is watching now.

The same network, ABC, had 2 games on Christmas, as well as 1 NFL game. If the NFL game is getting more people to watch, of course they are gonna aim to have more NFL on the channel.

Plus, the NBA just has alot more inventory of games, and people are comparing game 30 of 82 in an NBA season, to game 15 of 17 in the NFL season. Its crunch time for the NFL

If you want more NBA on ABC, gotta watch the games that are on there now. Thing is, NFL is king and that aint changing soon. So no need to go head to head if you are the NBA, cause you are competing for the same eyes, and they will choose NFL.

 

[concise]

The EPL in total only generates about 6 billion in revenue. The NFL generates almost TRIPLE that. That should give you a scale on how far the NFL is above the rest of the competition

European soccer teams so jealous of NFL's yearly revenue despite being more popular worldwide that they constantly keep trying to come up with Super Leagues to catch up.

 

[IIVI]

I can actually see the NFL expand and attract some European talent.

Some of them "wrestling bears" cats from Eastern Europe setting up blocks or playing tight end.

They already used to the cold, some road games would be trivial.

 

[charknicks]

There have been times when division winners were near the bottom of the top 8, but I want them automatically in the main playoff field and not to be in the play-in at all. An example would be last year's Heat not being in the play-in at all due to being division champions.






Honestly, if it were up to me, I'd use the cup and ramp the fukkery all the way up and automatically give all 8 quarterfinalists the play-in spots, with play-in spots passing on to other teams ONLY if those quarterfinalists earn their way into the main field.

See how many teams lollygag in the middle of the season then.

Awful idea.

EVERY team that makes the quarterfinals will lollygag for the last 60 games, cause they already know they are in the playoffs. No need to try the rest of the regular season then.

 

[concise]

Awful idea.

EVERY team that makes the quarterfinals will lollygag for the last 60 games, cause they already know they are in the playoffs. No need to try the rest of the regular season then.

That clearly says "play-in".

 

[Jplaya2023]

@Jplaya2023 in 2025: NBA should start on St. Patrick's Day

Nope Christmas is where it should always start