Eve had to fight her way through, persuading her label that, yes, actually, a song with Stefani would be a good idea. “I always got a lot of pushback,” she says, rolling her eyes. On the day her debut album dropped, Jay-Z rang to congratulate her but also warned her not to get her hopes up because female rappers “don’t really do that well”. She sold two million copies. One exec later told her she should give up and get pregnant. Others were openly rude in meetings. “The audacity that these men had.” She wouldn’t tolerate that today. “Now I have age and experience on my side, nobody’s coming at me like that.”