Random NBA Observations 2023 - 2024
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T-K-G
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Why is every game essentially the same score rn 
90 something to 70 something
90 something to 70 something
T-K-G
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Jesus this spurs court and the jerseys are trash 
lamelo legit got *one* free throw tonightHe made contact with him as he was going up and then had his foot in his landing space, that's an automatic foul
Celtics lost this game because they shot themselves in the foot, not because of refs but those clock shenanigans at the end were ridiculous
ABlackMan
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that was quick
They interviewed PJ and he was like “I can’t wait for people to see him back out there!”
So I started looking at possible lineups and seen these guys same position practically and now look.
I never said he should be ROY, dumbass, the season has barely started. I just said that the Spurs were so bad and Shai was so good, that Wemby/Chet's cases for ROY have nothing to do with whether the Thunder win more than the Spurs.
For what it's worth, "little impact" Wemby is currently at a +3.2 on/off and "clear rookie of the year" Chet Holmgren is -0.3 on/off.
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OKC has a 118.2 offensive rating and 109.3 defensive rating in 414 minutes with Holmgren on the court.
OKC has a 118.5 offensive rating and 109.4 defensive rating in 263 minutes with Holmgren on the bench.
at the perfect synchronicity of those numbers when you came in here trying to preach about "impact".
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Towns has legit been good defensively this season.
Those numbers mean nothing. I remember the spurs having a better drtg when Kawhi was on the bench. Use your eyes next time and not mathematic formulas u geekI never said he should be ROY, dumbass, the season has barely started. I just said that the Spurs were so bad and Shai was so good, that Wemby/Chet's cases for ROY have nothing to do with whether the Thunder win more than the Spurs.
For what it's worth, "little impact" Wemby is currently at a +3.2 on/off and "clear rookie of the year" Chet Holmgren is -0.3 on/off.
Chet Holmgren 2023-24 On Off Stats | Basketball-Reference.com
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OKC has a 118.2 offensive rating and 109.3 defensive rating in 577 minutes with Holmgren on the court.
OKC has a 118.5 offensive rating and 109.4 defensive rating in 576 minutes with Holmgren on the bench.
T-K-G
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Warriors could use a couple of these Youngbois on the pelicans 
they have way more confidence than Kuminga/Moody.
they have way more confidence than Kuminga/Moody.
Coby White needs more help
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Kawhi has been in the league for 11 years and the only two seasons where his team has had a higher defensive rating with him on the bench was 2017 and 2019. That makes sense, because both those seasons he played on a team that had an elite team defensive scheme that worked just fine without him, so he focused on offense and took a lot of plays off on the defensive side of the ball.
The fact that you always rely on your emotions rather than on indisputable #'s makes you unable to tell how good those 2017 Spurs and 2019 Raptors teams were defensively without Kawhi. You probably didn't even realize when Kawhi started limiting his defensive effort, and you just assume that the 2017 and later Kawhi who is focused on the offensive end is having the same defensive impact that young Kawhi had.
Does your "eye test" tell you that Wemby has no defensive impact when he's on the court?
T-K-G
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I was just thinking the ROY race may end up being closer than expected.
I've seen all of these bois hoop atleast once and send teams packing except for Sasser, I barely watch Detroit.
I know media wise it's gonna be bias to Wemby or Chet but I wouldn't be surprised if the other rooks go out of their way to cook them (if they're coaches allow them to run freely)
