Random NBA Observations 2017 - 2018

[Darealtwo1]

The Pacers and Thunder have the same records

Spoiler

Kevin Prichard looking like a genius

 

[NatiboyB]

be lucky to get an MLE

I wonder what his market value is going to be like in the summer after this horrible season he's had


They have so many role players locked up to horrible contracts

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Steven Soderbergh Reteams with André Holland for NBA Drama ‘High Flying Bird,’ Shooting This Month

No rest for the weary when it comes to Steven Soderbergh’s 2018. In between all of his media consumption, the director’s app-turned-TV show Mosiac is now airing on HBO and in just a few weeks he’ll premiere his iPhone-shot psychological horror film Unsane at Berlinale. Then he’s back to New York City to shoot a new film, and more details on the project have now been revealed.

Set to begin production at the end of the month, the NBA drama High Flying Bird will be led by his break-out star of The Knick, André Holland. It will also mark another reunion for Holland as the script is written by Tarell Alvin McCraney, the Oscar-winning co-writer of Moonlight. While the project was initially revealed last fall, we now know more about the drama thanks to this logline: “During an NBA lockout, a sports agent, Dean (Holland), presents his rookie client, Erick Scott, with an intriguing and controversial business opportunity.”

With the shoot lasting only a little over two weeks and Soderbergh’s recent comments about how iPhones are the future of filmmaking, one would imagine he’ll utilize the smartphone for this yet again. As we await word on additional casting, Soderbergh also just lined up another project with the action thriller Planet Kill. Producing with an eye to direct, the undisclosed story comes from Scott Z. Burns (Contagion) and James Greer (Unsane), Deadline reports. Soderbergh truly never left, but as Logan Lucky proved, it’s a welcome sight to have him taking on a plethora of feature films once again.

@jwinfield

Soderbergh/Holland/NBA.

 

[Derek Lee]

Utah

 

[tremonthustler1]

Knowing what we know about Cousins, should the Pelicans sale?

If I'm Ainge, I get on the phone with Demps and try to talk him into giving me Davis for Tatum and Brown and one of those picks that I think they have.

this the only way Boston can pull off a deal with NO

their best first rounder
Tatum
Brown
Smart
Baynes
Morris

but here's the problem: to trade Davis, you might as well let Cousins go (because no one's gonna give them anything for Cousins right now) and you're basically telling your fans you're in the playoffs as of today but don't want to be. That might make the trade twice as dispiriting for their fans.

 

[CarltonJunior]

There ain't a player in the league more disrespected by the refs than Jrue. Never seen a player who drives with the frequency he has been this season average less than 3 FT attempts a game, straight up criminal. He'd be averaging just as much if not more PPG than guys like Oladipo and Lillard if he got half the calls they did.

That would be D. Rose

 

[tremonthustler1]

Happy for Mario

To all the political soldiers out there, don't lose hope.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

That would be D. Rose

Or Dinwiddie.

 

[FAH1223]

 

[tremonthustler1]

Or Dinwiddie.

Linsanity without the whistle

 

[Malta]

The entire point of me layering an alternative outcome of Embiid being out of the picture is to show you the 76ers would have considerably less foundation to work with (as opposed to Celtics being without theirs), to point out how all their eggs are in a one [broken] basket. After all, aren't we talking about the future of their 76ers as a whole? The 76ers are completely reliant upon Embiid staying healthy and turning into a superstar (else they're essentially going back to square one), the Celtics are not reliant on ONE player, which is why I don't see your logic in how "long term the Sixers & Bucks will put a rain on their parade".


It simply doesn't make any sense.

It does make sense because I'm not operating under the premise that Embiid is going to get hurt, you want me to view it from your perspective when I've already told you where I'm standing. Do you think I'd make that post if I thought Giannis or Embiid would get hurt? I shouldn't have to put the "If Embiid/Giannis are healthy" qualifier every single time I post about either team. The higher end talent exists in Philly and Milwaukee, if they don't get hurt, they are going to put a rain on Boston's parade, better?

Greater coaching, greater top-end talent*, better FO, better environment, provability, and visible success is all in the Celtics' favor - that's what long-term success is built on, and remains, regardless of what misfortune a franchise finds themselves dealing with.

@ The asterik next to top end talent, again only 1 team has the generational player, matter of fact you said he'd be posting Hakeem numbers

Again, Pop is a better coach than Donovan, the Spurs are a better run organization, etc etc, it didn't matter because the Thunder had the generational player in KD and ran the most basic of plays to win that series. We're 10 years in now of LeBron running the 1-4 flat PnR and making it to the finals and he won a title with a clueless coach & terrible ownership, Embiid on the block will be just as difficult to stop, and just as confusing because it will be such a simple play.

And I don't know why you're talking about "best case scenario" when you haven't applied it to the Celtics, in the same manner.

Fam, you literally did just that, the worst case scenario for the Sixers down to the Celtics getting the Lakers pick this year when the pick as of now is slated to go to the Sixers.

He really doesn't.

I'd be inclined to agree with you if his surroundings were equal to that of Boston's, but they're not. If you want to argue that Philly has more potential because they have the best player, I most certainly wouldn't argue against that, but that's not what we're discussing here. Embiid may give Philly a higher ceiling as their teams now stand, but Boston's ceiling is much more assured than theirs.

He does.

As long as he's healthy I would pick the Sixers moving forward, and until he's hurt I will keep operating under that premise.

For you to suggest that Philly (and the Bucks) are going to "rain on the parade" of Celtics in the long-term, is basically you saying Embiid's going to have a long, healthy career with little-to-no setbacks, Fultz will come back from his shoulder and yips and be a star piece, Simmons will continue to progress, behind a strong FO and top-end coaching that'll put the necessary pieces around them to succeed. All the while, Kyrie's prime is cut short and/or gets injured, Tatum and/or Brown fail to get any better or leave for greener pastures, Hayward's play regresses or becomes a non-factor, Stevens' ability to coach is swallowed by a black hole of amnesia and the Celtics org. fail to put the proper pieces around or fail to sign any stars in the future.

Where did I say anything about the worst case scenario falling on the Celtics? I said you can't keep going on about Embiid's injury history and turn a blind eye to Kyrie's knee problems. I am operating under best case scenario for all 3 teams, you're trying to put words in my mouth for pointing out that it's all doom and gloom on your end talking about the Sixers. I've said very little about Fultz in this back and forth, because even without him they still have max space and could draft a wing this summer with the same pick you were attributing as a major plus to the Celtics. So, does that LAL pick not help the Sixers if they get it, or just the Celtics?

You're basically suggesting everything will go right for the 76ers, and nothing will go right for the Celtics. Which not only goes against any sense of pragmaticism, but it goes against the very state both teams are in at the moment.

No, I never once suggested that, just corrected you for operating like the C's don't have their own injury concern in Kyrie's knee.

Yes, I'm well aware of this, which again, it doesn't matter where it falls because they can still use it as a package for a big man, if it doesn't fall to them in this year's draft. It's still a valuable asset, regardless. In fact, it's actually more valuable for a team looking to rebuild in 2019, because they'll receive the more favourable pick from Philly/Sac, with only a 1st-pick protection.

Breh, you were operating under the idea that they were getting the LAL pick pretty much no matter what, it's why you put it in your first post as the LAL pick rather than the SAC pick, because as of today the LAL pick would be staying with the Sixers which would mean it shouldn't have been listed in that post.

More like, more drivel drivel, oh my bad, I meant more dribble dribble.

Lets keep this above the belt

But I have to say I'm noticing a discouraging trend from you, first Duncan now Embiid, did someone hit you with a beautiful up and under and make you swear off the post?

 

[TheNig]

this the only way Boston can pull off a deal with NO

their best first rounder
Tatum
Brown
Smart
Baynes
Morris

but here's the problem: to trade Davis, you might as well let Cousins go (because no one's gonna give them anything for Cousins right now) and you're basically telling your fans you're in the playoffs as of today but don't want to be. That might make the trade twice as dispiriting for their fans.

So you say, go ahead and try and if they bottom out then

 

[Nero Christ]

Steven Soderbergh Reteams with André Holland for NBA Drama ‘High Flying Bird,’ Shooting This Month

@jwinfield

Soderbergh/Holland/NBA.

The Knick is a criminally underappreciated show

and I'm happy to see Andre Holland blow up

 

[Sghost597]

Pelicans still got time to hit that tank button and keep their pick. Ehhhh... So fukking depressed watching this game.

A few positive... atleast we won't renew Gentry, and Erman without Boogie saving their jobs. Defense is awful without Boogie. It was already awful with him.

 

[ALonelyDad]

Wouldn't be surprised if Warriors end up getting Avery Bradley