Random NBA Observations 2015 - 2016

[Consumed]

Lowry has reached his peak he won't be any better than he has been.

I've never seen him move like this. Lowry right now is in the best shape of his prime, and with him the issue isn't so much peaking as it is just maintaining a level of consistency. Just needs to stay conditioned and healthy.

 

[Black]

I've never seen him move like this. Lowry right now is in the best shape of his prime, and with him the issue isn't so much peaking as it is just maintaining a level of consistency. Just needs to stay conditioned and healthy.

He is in the best shape I agree but I just don't believe he'll be any better than the '14 season. I guess we'll see though.

 

[Malta]

I know Kyle was terrible for about 2/3's of last year in what I suspected to be an injury or conditioning influenced disastrous stretch of play, and am suggesting that his noticeable weight loss can help him rediscover (or even improve upon) his performance in the first two months of '15 (won POM in December, outstanding play when the Raps were without DeRozan). He was great in 2014 as well where he combined good playmaking with a low turnover count, strong off the bounce three point shooting and a knack for getting to the line on drives. Went on to perform well in the postseason where he had arguably the best single game performance of any guard in the conference, Raps probably win that series if DeRozan doesn't get bodied by Joe Johnson.

Kyrie can be up there too, but his recovery from injury will likely hurt his case on the season.




Idk if sarcasm but I'm just saying he has the ability to be the top PG in the conference. I thought he was that in 2014 and a good portion of '15. Its a combination of me being higher on Lowry than most (don't think anyone really cares about Kyle outside of Raps fans), and lower on Wall.

Wall gave him work in the playoffs, 12ppg on 32% shooting is straight up and the fact they have lost two playoff series with HC is just

 

[The War Report]

LMA's fantasy prospects this year.

 

[Consumed]

Wall gave him work in the playoffs, 12ppg on 32% shooting is straight up and the fact they have lost two playoff series with HC is just

Yeah he was pretty terrible, with the way he'd been performing leading up to the postseason I expected as much, but I like his chances to bounce back from that. Weight loss should help him retain the ability he displayed early last season. Been watching him closely this preseason and he's playing with quickness I haven't seen from him.

Raps on the other hand idk, winning and losing is a team thing and I don't have a lot of confidence in them as a whole. Wiz might be better than them again next season and a first round exit is a strong possibility.

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

Wall and Kyrie the best pgs in the East breh...Lowry shyt the bed last year when it mattered the most

There's no way Kyrie who's injured half the time is better than Lowry. Does he have more potential? Of Course......but right now and in the past he's never been better than Lowry.

In addition to being injury prone, Kyrie was a perenial loser until Bron showed up.

Lowry wore down because he was basically using 30-40 percent of the teams possessions when Derozan was out and was doing everything. It was clear he also needed to lose the weight. Lowry has been easily a top 5 PG the last 2 years minus the time after the All star break last year (well actually his fall off started around January last year if I remember correctly).

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

Wall gave him work in the playoffs, 12ppg on 32% shooting is straight up and the fact they have lost two playoff series with HC is just

I don't take much from Lowry's performance in the playoffs. To me after the Back Injury where he sat out an extended period of time he came back and never had any sort of a rhythm heading into the playoffs. It was clear he wasn't there health wise. Even in the playoffs he was in foul trouble half the time.

 

[Noah]

Apparently, Larry Sanders is looking to be signed (couple of western conference teams have taken the most interest in him). Anyone think he'll be signed soon and where?

 

[AkaDemiK]

as soon as he put the ball thru son legs he shoulda threw that muthafukka in the crowd and started dancing

 

[Brozay]

Apparently, Larry Sanders is looking to be signed (couple of western conference teams have taken the most interest in him). Anyone think he'll be signed soon and where?

He gonna find himself on some title contender for pennies

 

[Black]

There's no way Kyrie who's injured half the time is better than Lowry. Does he have more potential? Of Course......but right now and in the past he's never been better than Lowry.

In addition to being injury prone, Kyrie was a perenial loser Bron showed up.

Lowry wore down because he was basically using 30-40 percent of the teams possessions when Derozan was out and was doing everything. It was clear he also needed to lose the weight. Lowry has been easily a top 5 PG the last 2 years minus the time after the All star break last year (well actually his fall off started around January last year if I remember correctly).

you serious?

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

you serious?

Go through WAR, RPM, PER any advanced stat through their careers. Then look at how many games Irving has missed and his On/Off Defensive Ratings for his team during his career.

That will tell the story of who's been better (and when I say better, I mean who's been more effective towards winning games in the NBA.....not who has the better skillset or potential...there's a difference)

It's clearly Lowry. To me, Kyrie is a better scorer but Lowry has been the better player. I don't know how you could argue otherwise if you've watched basketball over their entire careers. As great as Kyrie is, he couldn't even finish a season at Duke. As a number 1 option Lowry has just done more thus far.

 

[CantStop]

LMA's fantasy prospects this year.

Avoid at all costs.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

There's no way Kyrie who's injured half the time is better than Lowry. Does he have more potential? Of Course......but right now and in the past he's never been better than Lowry.

In addition to being injury prone, Kyrie was a perenial loser Bron showed up.

Kyrie has been better than Lowry since the first day he set foot in the league. Don't bring up this "perennial loser" bullshyt as if he didn't have one of the worst complementary rosters prior to last season (Lowry wouldn't win shyt with Dion Waiters as his best player). Not only that, but why are you bringing up Kyrie's health (lack of games played), as if Lowry hasn't played a similar amount of games/minutes over the same time frame?

2012 - Lowry played 47 games, averaging 32 minutes. Kyrie played 51 games, averaging 30 minutes
2013 - Lowry played 68 games, averaging 29 minutes. Kyrie played 59 games, averaging 34 minutes
2014 - Lowry played 79 games, averaging 36 minutes. Kyrie played 71 games, averaging 35 minutes
2015 - Lowry played 70 games, averaging 34 minutes, Kyrie played 75 games, averaging 36 minutes

Totals games for Lowry - 264
Total games for Irving - 256

Total minutes for Lowry - 8806
Total minutes for Irving - 8832

Kyrie has ONLY played eight less games than Lowry, yet played 26 more minutes, and you're in here acting as if he's not on the court long enough to prove he's better than Lowry - a player that's played LESS minutes than he has.

Lowry wore down because he was basically using 30-40 percent of the teams possessions when Derozan was out and was doing everything. It was clear he also needed to lose the weight. Lowry has been easily a top 5 PG the last 2 years minus the time after the All star break last year (well actually his fall off started around January last year if I remember correctly).

The nerve of you to make excuses for Lowry 'breaking down' due to him having a heavy workload, as if Kyrie hasn't had a higher usage rate since his debut season:

2012 season - 28.7% usage rate in 51 games
2013 season - 30.2% usage rate in 59 games
2014 season - 28.2% usage rate in 71 games
2015 season - 26.2% usage rate in 75 games

Lowry only had a 25.4% usage rate in 70 games last season, and he didn't have a 30-40% usage rate when DeRozan was out - it was only 29.2% over 21 games.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Go through WAR, RPM, PER any advanced stat through their careers. Then look at how many games Irving has missed and his On/Off Defensive Ratings for his team during his career.

Are you going to provide any context when metric stabbing or are you just going to throw them shyts at the wall in hopes of nobody seeing if it sticks or not?

That will tell the story of who's been better (and when I say better, I mean who's been more effective towards winning games in the NBA.....not who has the better skillset or potential...there's a difference).

The story begun the minute Irving played his first game, and every chapter has him being the better player.

It's clearly Lowry. To me, Kyrie is a better scorer but Lowry has been the better player. I don't know how you could argue otherwise if you've watched basketball over their entire careers. As great as Kyrie is, he couldn't even finish a season at Duke. As a number 1 option Lowry has just done more thus far.

Not only have you not watched Kyrie enough in Cleveland but it seems to me you don't know Lowry's role on his team either, because he's never been the #1 option on any team he's been on.