Random NBA Observations 2015 - 2016

[Frump]

I find it funny how the vast majority of the Coli says the Nets & Mavs will not make the playoffs this year, the Celtics own both of their 1st round picks (top 7 protected for the Mavs) and yet y'all turn around and say those picks have no value

This draft is not good so while they have some value nobodies giving up a star to get into the lotto if this draft

 

[SchoolboyC]

They only have but so much value.

Who are these teams trying to blow it up to where they're willing bet it all on a weak draft?

Who are these teams projected to pick high that will be willing to move down?

Those picks as picks >>>> those picks as assets to cash in for a sure thing.

I don't know, we'll have to wait and see if and how Ainge can use them.

But I just find it laughable that the consensus on here is that the Nets are fukked for the foreseeable future but the team that pretty much owns their picks for the next 3 years won't be able to cash in on it in someway.

 

[Hoganese]

 

[SchoolboyC]

This draft is not good so while they have some value nobodies giving up a star to get into the lotto if this draft

They also have the Nets picks for the two seasons after that

 

[42 Monks]

I don't know, we'll have to wait and see if and how Ainge can use them.

But I just find it laughable that the consensus on here is that the Nets are fukked for the foreseeable future but the team that pretty much owns their picks for the next 3 years won't be able to cash in on it in someway.

Brook Lopez is literally more valuable than the Cs entire roster.

 

[The G.O.D II]

I'm pretty sure Ainge is aware that the Celtics aren't winning a title with Isaiah Thomas as the leading scorer

And actually it's quite the opposite, we have a logjam of bigs not guards.

The problem is the have the same player at basically the same position. There is not difference between Smart, Turner, and Turner. Lee, Olynk, Zeller. Your best shooter not only doesn't start but doesn't play D and is super inefficient

 

[jaguar paw]

4, but they were trash picks

The two-mid round picks that they had this year (meh), the Cavs pick next year , and the 2018 Nets pick.

What the fukk are we gonna do with that

Could've gotten Portis and another wing this year.

Ditto on the Cavs pick and that Nets pick could literally end up being the #1 overall pick.

I don't think that Kaminsky is a player that will change your franchise's trajectory. This current core isn't winning anything in the immediate future even if MKG was healthy.

 

[ALonelyDad]

METTA WORLD COACH I hope he elbows Doc Rivers

 

[SchoolboyC]

Brook Lopez is literally more valuable than the Cs entire roster.

So Brook Lopez who gets injured every other year is going to carry them to being a perennial playoff team for the next 3 seasons?

Or are you saying that they're gonna cash in on his value and trade Lopez, which I'm struggling to come up with a scenario where they trade by far their best player and don't get worse.

 

[The G.O.D II]

4, but they were trash picks

The two-mid round picks that they had this year (meh), the Cavs pick next year , and the 2018 Nets pick.

What the fukk are we gonna do with that

And all that was better then Frank Kaminsky

 

[42 Monks]

Could've gotten Portis and another wing this year.

Ditto on the Cavs pick and that Nets pick could literally end up being the #1 overall pick.

I don't think that Kaminsky is a player that will change your franchise's trajectory. This current core isn't winning anything in the immediate future even if MKG was healthy.

I'd rather take a sure thing at worse than another defensive guy that literally addresses none of the team's concerns. Mid-lotto picks are generally trash.

And what are the odds the Nets stay trash with a cashed out owner until 2018? Zero. This is a team that rolled out the goons and paid overtime

So Brook Lopez who gets injured every other year is going to carry them to being a perennial playoff team for the next 3 seasons?

Or are you saying that they're gonna cash in on his value and trade Lopez, which I'm struggling to come up with a scenario where they trade by far their best player and don't get worse.

They just did it last year

And I mean value as in, if you put together all of the best of the Cs existing roster, you wouldn't have enough to land him in trade. Celtics got two Kemba Walkers, the shytty Zeller, and the second coming of Sean May as their best pieces going foward.

Celtics could never land FAs and yal draft worse than Charlotte ever did over the same timeline. I trust the Russian's wallet to be at least good enough to be NOT hyped over a pick in 2018
just to make sure that Atlanta wouldn't get a shot at a .6% chance lottery pick. No team is just gonna sit there and knowingly be bad enough to put in position to give away a high chance at a #1 overall. It never happens.

And all that was better then Frank Kaminsky

Frank can ball. Whatever. If he was black yal wouldn't have shyt to say and you know it

 

[Cadillac]

 

[jaguar paw]

I'd rather take a sure thing at worse than another defensive guy that literally addresses none of the team's concerns. Mid-lotto picks are generally trash.

And what are the odds the Nets stay trash with a cashed out owner until 2018? Zero. This is a team that rolled out the goons and paid overtime

The free agent class next summer is garbage and 90 percent of the teams will have cap space. The Nets don't have draft picks or have to swap until like 2020. They are banking on paying and putting together a hodgepodge group of free agents in 2017.

The Nets still have an incompetent GM and an owner who was in over his head. They probably have the most bleek future in the league right now. As a GM I'd have to roll the dice on getting that pick.

Are you 100 percent sure that Kaminsky ends up better than Portis?

 

[FaTaL]

How much does the Bulls defense regress this year?

 

[SchoolboyC]

I'd rather take a sure thing at worse than another defensive guy that literally addresses none of the team's concerns. Mid-lotto picks are generally trash.

And what are the odds the Nets stay trash with a cashed out owner until 2018? Zero. This is a team that rolled out the goons and paid overtime

They just did it last year

And I mean value as in, if you put together all of the best of the Cs existing roster, you wouldn't have enough to land him in trade. Celtics got two Kemba Walkers, the shytty Zeller, and the second coming of Sean May as their best pieces going foward.

Celtics could never land FAs and yal draft worse than Charlotte ever did over the same timeline. I trust the Russian's wallet to be at least good enough to be NOT hyped over a pick in 2018
just to make sure that Atlanta wouldn't get a shot at a .6% chance lottery pick. No team is just gonna sit there and knowingly be bad enough to put in position to give away a high chance at a #1 overall. It never happens.

Frank can ball. Whatever. If he was black yal wouldn't have shyt to say and you know it

The East was ravished by injuries and they made the playoffs on a tiebreaker as a 38 win 8th seed. If you're banking on that happening every year for the next 3 seasons then I guess.

The Nets at the end of day are still a poorly ran team. The last time they had cap space they whiffed on all marquee guys and ended up overpaying Travis Outlaw & Johan Petro. Is it possible they could hit a home run or two in free agency? Sure. But I'm not gonna bet on it.

As far as us drafting worse than Charlotte, I didn't look it up but I'm pretty sure we've had 3 lottery picks (And only kept 1 of them) since they were brought back y'all have had a good 10-11, so if we did draft better than y'all despite generally only getting mid to late 1st round picks then I think that would say more about y'all than us.