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Stockpiling assets for who? If you're in that situation the last thing you wanna do is draft young talented players that you can't keep. Your solution has the opposite effect. GM's will just lowball you knowing damn well you can't keep all of em and make it work.

If they're using the 4th pick to get a more established wing player, great, but I can't assume that.

And weren't you the same one saying the Lakers should draft Gary Harris, Kobe be damned a couple of months ago?
GM's won't lowball you because they need that asset and a bidding war wouldn't allow them to do so. If every team in the league knows Favors is available they would all make their best offer and you could take it or leave it. No harm in leaving it like the Rockets did with Asik.
 

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GM's won't lowball you because they need that asset and a bidding war wouldn't allow them to do so. If every team in the league knows Favors is available they would all make their best offer and you could take it or leave it. No harm in leaving it like the Rockets did with Asik.
Julius Randle won't be the last promising PF prospect. Randle's value won't be higher than on draft night. A year later, his value won't go up given how he'd be used and a GM would rather just hold out for the Jahlil Okafors of the world.

Asik is the kind of situation Utah wouldn't want, a situation where the player just winds up leaving anyway. Hell, they just had Big Al and Millsap and let both of them go for nothing, so whatever you're saying is going against what they've been doing.
 

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Julius Randle won't be the last promising PF prospect. Randle's value won't be higher than on draft night. A year later, his value won't go up given how he'd be used and a GM would rather just hold out for the Jahlil Okafors of the world.

Asik is the kind of situation Utah wouldn't want, a situation where the player just winds up leaving anyway. Hell, they just had Big Al and Millsap and let both of them go for nothing, so whatever you're saying is going against what they've been doing.
How would a player be able to leave anyway when he'd be under contract for at least 5 years? Randle could get them a top 10 pick a year from now if he's halfway as good as people think he is. Or they could develop him for 2 years then dump Favors.
 

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How would a player be able to leave anyway when he'd be under contract for at least 5 years? Randle could get them a top 10 pick a year from now if he's halfway as good as people think he is. Or they could develop him for 2 years then dump Favors.
It wouldn't be easy doing that playing behind Derrick and Enes.

You're also assuming they wanna dump Favors or put themselves in that position. If they had any kinds of doubts about Favors (or Enes), then don't give out extensions. Why would Utah put themselves in a spot where they hope Randle outplays their best player? That's what you don't wanna do as a rebuilding team. It would be like them drafting Marcus Smart or Tyler Ennis hoping they beat out Trey Burke, all while the wing positions are a huge question mark.


And if you think they'll just all stay together, hey Utah could use backup bigs. I just wouldn't use a top 5 pick to address that
 

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It wouldn't be easy doing that playing behind Derrick and Enes.

You're also assuming they wanna dump Favors or put themselves in that position. If they had any kinds of doubts about Favors (or Enes), then don't give out extensions. Why would Utah put themselves in a spot where they hope Randle outplays their best player? That's what you don't wanna do as a rebuilding team. It would be like them drafting Marcus Smart or Tyler Ennis hoping they beat out Trey Burke, all while the wing positions are a huge question mark.


And if you think they'll just all stay together, hey Utah could use backup bigs. I just wouldn't use a top 5 pick to address that
If Randle is capable of outplaying their best player that's exactly what they want.
 

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If Randle is capable of outplaying their best player that's exactly what they want.
That's not what they're aiming to do though nor should they. If they had that in their mind entering a season where they knew they'd suck, don't give Favors $50 mil and don't entertain extension talks with Kanter now.

Everything you're saying now can be applied to Randle next year if they're in position to draft one of the bigs in 2015. At some point you have to build a team and not spin your wheels. Being indecisive over who you wanna build around can keep you at the bottom and maybe cost you your job
 

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That's not what they're aiming to do though nor should they. If they had that in their mind entering a season where they knew they'd suck, don't give Favors $50 mil and don't entertain extension talks with Kanter now.

Everything you're saying now can be applied to Randle next year if they're in position to draft one of the bigs in 2015. At some point you have to build a team and not spin your wheels. Being indecisive over who you wanna build around can keep you at the bottom and maybe cost you your job
I wish there was some Jazz fans on this board to get their take on this. We'll see when the draft gets here.
 
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