Random College Basketball Thoughts: 2016-17

Who will win the National Championship?

  • Duke

  • Kentucky

  • Kansas

  • Villanova

  • Wisconsin

  • North Carolina

  • Syracuse

  • Michigan State

  • Indiana

  • Arizona

  • Louisville

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Champ_KW

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Obviously my rankings are based off of watching a lot of non-college games and assessing how that will translate to the next level and beyond.

You mean non college games and events like Bradley, a center, finishing 3rd in the 3 point shooting contest at the Powerade Jam Fest? Or maybe the City of Palms Classic where Azibuike put up 20 on basically all dunks against some bums but Bradley hung 30 on Jayson Tatum's squad and was clearly the best big there? Or the Beach Ball Classic where Bradley avg 20 points 12 rebs and 3 blocks and was clearly the best big at the event? Did you happen to miss him on the AAU circuit when him and Kevin Knox dominated for Team Each 1 Teach 1? It's cool to have your preferences, but when you say you've based it off of "watching", it's clear you haven't been watching Bradley. Best skill set of all the guys you named (Bolden the only one that should be mentioned with him). Goes over both shoulders, foot work, range, free throw shooting, defense, rebounding, etc. Just admit you're enamored by the physical freaks that get the "Baby Shaq" monikers cause of big dunks.
 

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Watching the KU-Duke game just affirmed my opinion that Duke is by far the best team in the country.

A fully healthy Duke would've won by 10+ against KU. Think about it: you take KU's best 3 players(Frank Mason, Josh Jackson and Devontae Graham) off their squad and make them play a healthy, complete Duke team, the results wouldn't just be a 2 point win due to a buzzer beater. It would be a brutal beatdown.

Kentucky, Duke, Nova and UNC are easily the best teams this year. Syracuse is underrated and will make noise this year as well. Teams like KU and Louisville are Final Four caliber as well.

A fully healthy Duke??? Man without those 3 guys they still fielded a squad of 6 Burger Boys. KU played essentially the first half without Frank Mason who picked up 2 fouls before he broke a sweat. And played a large part of the 2nd half without Josh or Azibuike cause of fouls. Minus a Frank Jackson outburst, Duke would've gotten doubled figured by a squad led by Graham. Even with those 3 guys, I think it's a stretch to say this Duke team is lapping the field. Duke at this stage (a week in) is just a great collection of talent. They'll be a great team come January tho.
 

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At what point does it hurt Grayson when it looks like he can't defend and labors to score against NBA athletes?

nobody will admit it but he's overrated...weak handle, no mid range, bullies his way into the lane seeking contact hoping to draw a foul, and can't defend. Kennard is better than him offensively
 

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At what point does it hurt Grayson when it looks like he can't defend and labors to score against NBA athletes?

He actually defends quite well when he puts in effort. He kept jackson in front of him a few times last nite. Kennard is by far the worst perimeter defender on the team. And if allen hits his 3s at a usual clip, we'd be talking a differnet tune about last nite. He missed alot of 3 that he would ordinarily make which had nothing to do with the defender in front of him. He hits 3-4 more 3s given the volume he took, and duke wins with him have 20+ points. He just has to hit those shots. When he decided to stop settling for 3s in the 2nd half, he made a couple easy drives to the basket.

nobody will admit it but he's overrated...weak handle, no mid range, bullies his way into the lane seeking contact hoping to draw a foul, and can't defend. Kennard is better than him offensively

his handle is actually quite improved, but i definitely agree with the midrange. He's settled for 3s and drives to the cup this year when he was better at midrange last year. See above re: defense.
 

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even K said Allen needs to calm the hell down looking for contact on every play. they need the other stars in there cuz him and Kennard shoot too damn much
 

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Have you actually seen Bolden play? He would've absolutely kept Udoka off the boards and been a massive factor defensively.

Bruh wtf, Bolden is 6'11 250 with a 7'6 wingspan and has an otherworldly standing reach(9'5), which is the same as some of the freakiest physical specimens on the planet: Karl-Anthony Towns and Hassan Whiteside.

In all of Duke's exhibitions and public practices he led the team in blocks in pretty much controlled the paint and changed the game defensively anytime he was on the court. There's a reason why he was ranked higher the Udoka and every other center coming in this year and is projected to be a lottery pick.



Oh and here's 7'0 Udoka attempting to back Bolden down and score on him in the post in the Nike Hoop Summitt...peep what happened...:mjlol::sas2:


That's the thing, Bolden has all the tools to be an elite rebounder, dude gives up way too many offensive boards. He should be way more dominant with the tools he has.

I never said that he was a bad player though, I just don't think he's going to provide as much to win these kinds of games as people think he will.

And as far as that last clip. I could pull up a joint of Kwame Brown blocking Dwight Howard. Neither one of them had a good Hoop Summit.
 

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You mean non college games and events like Bradley, a center, finishing 3rd in the 3 point shooting contest at the Powerade Jam Fest? Or maybe the City of Palms Classic where Azibuike put up 20 on basically all dunks against some bums but Bradley hung 30 on Jayson Tatum's squad and was clearly the best big there? Or the Beach Ball Classic where Bradley avg 20 points 12 rebs and 3 blocks and was clearly the best big at the event? Did you happen to miss him on the AAU circuit when him and Kevin Knox dominated for Team Each 1 Teach 1? It's cool to have your preferences, but when you say you've based it off of "watching", it's clear you haven't been watching Bradley. Best skill set of all the guys you named (Bolden the only one that should be mentioned with him). Goes over both shoulders, foot work, range, free throw shooting, defense, rebounding, etc. Just admit you're enamored by the physical freaks that get the "Baby Shaq" monikers cause of big dunks.

I have been watching Bradley, I'm not going to give my opinion about a player if I haven't watched enough film yet.

At the end of the day it comes down to the eye test for me, Bolden certainly beats out Bradley for me and so does Udoka.

Bradley has all the tools to be a great college player.

I just don't see his game translating to the league like the other two, and I don't feel he has the potential of them either.
 
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