Rand Paul: ‘We’ve Got to Fix the Overcriminalization Problem’

[theworldismine13]

Im talking about Rand Paul, cause that's who the thread is about. IDGAF about Sanders or Clinton, neither of them are getting my vote. Paul put bills up but they were softball shyt he knew woouldn't pass. And when push came to shove and the GOP put that pressure on him he about faced on foreign policy, abortion, and is on the wrong side of the libertarian fence on shyt like drug laws (note how he wants to reduce penalties, rather than fully decriminalize.... whats libertarian about drug laws?), gay marriage, and even fukking free speech if it's "radical and political". So like I said from the drop, Rand Paul is full of shyt, and his half-assed anti-drug law rhetoric only further proves that.

So if I surmise this gibberish correctly it doesn't matter what candidate black people vote for?

 

[theworldismine13]

Is Rand Paul every Republican in office across the country?

You would make a terrible negotiator. "OK here is all the money. Now what do I get for it? Hey where are you going! Come back!!!!!"

So you are saying that Rand Paul is different than a regular republican?

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

So if I surmise this gibberish correctly it doesn't matter what candidate black people vote for?

No gibberish. I'll speak slow since you're an idiot. Rand Paul has no ideological integrity, so just because he says something or even puts a bill up doesn't mean he really supports it.

So you are saying that Rand Paul is different than a regular republican?

No, I'm saying 1 Republican claiming to align with one of our causes is hardly justification for Black people to vote for that Republican, let alone all Republicans everywhere. And that goes for any party, Democrats too.

 

[theworldismine13]

No gibberish. I'll speak slow since you're an idiot. Rand Paul has no ideological integrity, so just because he says something or even puts a bill up doesn't mean he really supports it.

as opposed to who? that is what im getting at

No, I'm saying 1 Republican claiming to align with one of our causes is hardly justification for Black people to vote for that Republican, let alone all Republicans everywhere. And that goes for any party, Democrats too.

but is 1 republican claiming to align with our issues justification for voting for that 1 republican? that is what im getting at

 

[theworldismine13]

I disagreed with your assertion that we should "split our votes" especially without any policy demands. I don't know if Rand Paul actually believes in this issue or if it's just a political maneuver, but he will have a hard time selling this issue to the party of law and order.

If he can back or help pass meaningful reform, then most black people would be less suspicious of Paul especially given his earlier positions on civil rights etc.

but that isnt what i was saying, i was saying i dont agree with some democratic policies and i agree with some republican polices so therefore i think black people should split their votes

 

[Robbie3000]

but that isnt what i was saying, i was saying i dont agree with some democratic policies and i agree with some republican polices so therefore i think black people should split their votes

You said repeatedly that we should split the vote for the sake of splitting the vote.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

as opposed to who? that is what im getting at



but is 1 republican claiming to align with our issues justification for voting for that 1 republican? that is what im getting at

You arent getting at anything. And being that this 1 republican has folded on similarly important issues when push came to shove, no, those claims are not justification for voting for him just yet. If the GOP got back on its drug war shyt Rand Paul would switch his tune in a heartbeat, just as he has on other issues.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

You arent getting at anything. And being that this 1 republican has folded on similarly important issues when push came to shove, no, those claims are not justification for voting for him just yet. If the GOP got back on its drug war shyt Rand Paul would switch his tune in a heartbeat, just as he has on other issues.

Yup

 

[toomanydoses]

Good luck getting real reform passed in Congress. We need private conversations between political leadership to convince the ones who are on the fence or aren't on board at all instead of speech's to gain political points. Young ppl and minorities overwhelmingly support this, its the old white guys in power that don't sp talk to them not the ppl who are already on board.

 

[theworldismine13]

You arent getting at anything. And being that this 1 republican has folded on similarly important issues when push came to shove, no, those claims are not justification for voting for him just yet. If the GOP got back on its drug war shyt Rand Paul would switch his tune in a heartbeat, just as he has on other issues.

but if the GOP got on its drug war shyt so would the clintons, so for a black person, voting for clinton or voting for paul is the same difference, according to your logic

 

[theworldismine13]

You said repeatedly that we should split the vote for the sake of splitting the vote.

i said we should split the vote to gain power and to have influence in both parties, anything else you heard beyond that or different than that is a figment of your imagination

 

[I_Got_Da_Burna]

you obviously didn't read the article or research his stances. It's about changing laws and sentencing practices.

Dude, you really think those issues have nothing to do with the prison system?

Lawmakers and prison reformists work hand in hand in crafting certain laws to keep the jails and prisons full. They aren't two heterogenous issues.

 

[Robbie3000]

i said we should split the vote to gain power and to have influence in both parties, anything else you heard beyond that or different than that is a figment of your imagination

Well that's not what you said, but i'm not going to go back and forth about this. Holla at me when he actually fights for these causes especially against his own party in congress.

Anything else is uncivilized.

 

[theworldismine13]

You said repeatedly that we should split the vote for the sake of splitting the vote.

i said we should split the vote to increase our power and influence

 

[theworldismine13]

Well that's not what you said, but i'm not going to go back and forth about this. Holla at me when he actually fights for these causes especially against his own party in congress.

Anything else is uncivilized.

you cant go back and forth because ive been saying the same thing so there is no way you can bring up a post of me saying anything different

and he has convinced other people in his party

Criminal justice reform gains bipartisan momentum
Criminal justice reform gains bipartisan momentum

because some libertarian republicans like rand paul have brought up the issue some republicans have been coming around, republicans coming around to the issue is the only reason why the clintons have been doing mea culpas about it and its the only reason why there is a bi partisan coalition forming around the issue

but the bottom line is that black people need to split our vote so that we have influence in both parties