Should be an absolute last resort. I.e we would have to pull some of our finest from overseas to take care of the situation.
Rand Paul Filibusters Brenen Nomination Over Drones
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Should be an absolute last resort. I.e we would have to pull some of our finest from overseas to take care of the situation.
but who does? thats my point. no one is going to agree with letting drones fly around shooting americans just in case they MIGHT think about hating america.
no one will ever agree to that. no one being citizens. the problem is, if we agree to use them on super extreme situations. there will always be a possible snowball effect that COULD take place. it may never happen. but it COULD happen.
No I say its improbable a situation will ever arise that would make sense for the use of a drone. Ain't nobody taking over the Black Hills and hiding in caves.
Holder is saying its a possibility. Which insinuates that its already been calculated and mapped out.
So the question begs, "Under what situation is this a possibility. what scenario (geography and social demography included) requires the usage of a drone?"
Domestic terrorism? All he can do publicly is describe the character profile of the target. That's nowhere near an argument for "possibility."
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Rand Paul's courage in the face of these blood thirsty liberals is very inspiring!
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It will be interesting to see how crime, organized and 'disorganized' reacts. Maybe things will go way back to the old days with people doing shyt in person, staying off monitored communication, coded messages and shyt.
Im watching this live. Paul is gonna end up with no friends at the end of this. He's throwing all kinds of dirt on both parties.
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I wouldn't call being anti-drone strikes as being a progressive issue like some others have said. I don't think progressives have ownership over that (though obviously they were in opposition to waterboarding and tactics of that sort and are still pushing for the Obama administration to release the full documents about what the Bush administration did). But I definitely think that what Rand Paul did is necessary, not because I think this is anything more than political posturing before what is an inevitable confirmation, but because it didn't allow Congress to just straight up abjure their responsibilities like they did back in 2003 and 2004. In the end, even the people that gave him food had voted for it in the committee so it looks lame that they're now trying to leap onto a popular political moment.
I guess I've fallen out of love with political theatre. But what's worse is how everyone seems to forget how part of the problem is the cowardice of the American people, part of the reason places like Guantanomo weren't closed and why terrorists weren't given due process on US soil was every Senator, Governor, Mayor and their cities being like
not in our state. Which of course led to Obama firing the advisor who told him that we'd be able to close Guantanomo within in a year and part of this situation we're in now. So while we all cheer shyt like this, remember it was our own cowardice and preference for having accused terrorists (including American ones) being dealt with in a place that violates all sorts of due process rights than in front of our eyes as part of the problem.
Maybe, that's why the public doesn't care about drones, it's being consistent with it's
as long as it's not near me . This is a much bigger issue on the internet than it is everyday on the street.
I guess I've fallen out of love with political theatre. But what's worse is how everyone seems to forget how part of the problem is the cowardice of the American people, part of the reason places like Guantanomo weren't closed and why terrorists weren't given due process on US soil was every Senator, Governor, Mayor and their cities being like
not in our state. Which of course led to Obama firing the advisor who told him that we'd be able to close Guantanomo within in a year and part of this situation we're in now. So while we all cheer shyt like this, remember it was our own cowardice and preference for having accused terrorists (including American ones) being dealt with in a place that violates all sorts of due process rights than in front of our eyes as part of the problem. Maybe, that's why the public doesn't care about drones, it's being consistent with it's
as long as it's not near me . This is a much bigger issue on the internet than it is everyday on the street.
Americans have abdicated their responsibility to hold their politicians accountable and it carried over into the current procedural mess we have today. Leading to the threat of the filibuster stop votes from going forward, knowing that most Senators/ Congressmen don't have the intestinal fortitude to follow through.
We all know this won't stop the bill from going forward.
20 years from now when we're living in Minority Report with pre-crime and drones listening to your conversations at least we can all look back and see who had the courage of their convictions to actually stand up and try to head off the coming privacy crisis.
And if we're lucky this draws enough attention to the use of drones to that we get more discussion about due process and privacy rights.
We all know this won't stop the bill from going forward.
20 years from now when we're living in Minority Report with pre-crime and drones listening to your conversations at least we can all look back and see who had the courage of their convictions to actually stand up and try to head off the coming privacy crisis.
And if we're lucky this draws enough attention to the use of drones to that we get more discussion about due process and privacy rights.
It will be interesting to see how crime, organized and 'disorganized' reacts. Maybe things will go way back to the old days with people doing shyt in person, staying off monitored communication, coded messages and shyt.
It depends on how the tech develops... I honestly think that's the main battlefield. Remember that Taliban forced and Iraqi insurgents were hacking our drones with $30 software. I also doubt fully militarized drones will be deployed here. Military surveillance and control technology always makes its way back home into civilian contexts, though, in one form or another.
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This motherfukker Marco Rubio!
"Let me quote you a modern day poet, Wiz Khalifa"
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This motherfukker is quoting Jay-Z now.
Dropping rap lyrics on the floor.
Hilarious.
Dropping rap lyrics on the floor.
Hilarious.
