Rand Paul Filibusters Brenen Nomination Over Drones
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I hate the Paul family but that fakkit Rand went the hell in from what I read so far.
I wish the Democrats would step up to the plate considering they are the "progressive" party
I wish the Democrats would step up to the plate considering they are the "progressive" party
It feels insane to be agreeing with him...
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It's a sad when we're cheering for libertarians and republicans to hold politicians accountable.
I might need to an Ace Ventura shower after this.
not that i want drones in my backyard. but seeing as though this is 2013. and we dont have old school wars like we use to. where you only had to check for a hand full of spies and fight the big armies. the war you face now is a war of terrorist. its like spies with an agenda to destroy things in your home country.
i'm asking a real question. if some person decides to become some kind of extremist and has plans to blow up something significant. which will harm lots and lots of people. should a drone be out of the question as far tools at the disposal of the feds, local police, etc to try and catch the guy before he does it?
DO NOT change my hypothetical to fit your agenda. i need answers to my question before we go any further.
can this have a snowball effect? of course. they called black panthers communists and used that as an excuse to infiltrate them legally. i just want an answer to my hypo-question.
There's no need to change your hypothetical. It's already dystopian. There are already plans to mechanize policing... if you don't think that drones will be patrolling the skies above the projects, I don't know what to tell you.
Get a warrant and arrest him. Give him a trial and let the chips fall where they may.
Edit: Of course, if he's shooting at arresting officers or something, deadly force may be used.
what if we cant locate him without the drones? we may have an IDEA of where he is. but not good enough info to know exactly where. and everytime we show up in said area. he disappears and blows up something else. could we then send in the drones to sneak around and find the guy without exposing the police, fbi, etc? thats just a drone with a camera on it. no weapons.
now, using that same scenario. lets say dude walks around with a suicide vest on. and he knows if the feds come knocking he will turn it on and kill us all. us being the feds, local authorities, as well as innocent people standing around the area. should our govvy then be allowed to send a stealth drone in to shoot the guy up?
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And let's add this to the mix.
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Paul is opposed to the use of military drones to kill americans on american soil. I agree with him. As far as searching for criminals, I'm not opposed to that. It happened with Dorner if I remember right.
Even in your tailor made scenario, I'm not sure weaponized drones would be the best option (I think a long range sniper would be best, because the drone would probably shoot the bomb). If he's held up in an area (he's behind a door right? If not what are the feds knocking on?), we could reach a safe distance and wait him out.
But even this misses the point. Paul does not want the rights of an Amercian to due process eroded. And neither do I. He doesn't want Amercans shot in coffee shops on American soil by drones the way, say, Afghan Taliban members might be in their country- even though they may not pose a threat at the moment.
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It would've been more relevant if Brennan wasn't just approved by a bipartisan Senate commitee 12-3... He'll eventually get more votes than Hagel anyway.
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