Raekwon Details Why He Doesn't Consider 'Wu-Tang Forever' a Classic (Part 13)

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EVERYBODY shyts on the Lex Diamonds Story album and I'll be completely honest...it might be warranted because I don't really remember a damn thing from it :dead:

The joint about the missiing watch, Smith Bros (mainly because I thought Ghost and Trife rocked the beat better at the time), and that song The Hood that got a little burn on Rap City

Other than that...I couldn't tell you how the album sounded :pachaha:
shyt was trash. I remember like one joint I could rock with MAYBE. I had completely given up on Wu-Tang at that point. What was it? 2003?
 

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EVERYBODY shyts on the Lex Diamonds Story album and I'll be completely honest...it might be warranted because I don't really remember a damn thing from it :dead:

The joint about the missiing watch, Smith Bros (mainly because I thought Ghost and Trife rocked the beat better at the time), and that song The Hood that got a little burn on Rap City

Other than that...I couldn't tell you how the album sounded :pachaha:

It has a few cuts but that's all. My favorite one is

Even though it's more of a Tekitha song w/ Rae, it's so ill. It's much more the vibe of what Second Coming off Forever should have been.
 
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EVERYBODY shyts on the Lex Diamonds Story album and I'll be completely honest...it might be warranted because I don't really remember a damn thing from it :dead:

The joint about the missiing watch, Smith Bros (mainly because I thought Ghost and Trife rocked the beat better at the time), and that song The Hood that got a little burn on Rap City

Other than that...I couldn't tell you how the album sounded :pachaha:

I've never listened to that whole album, only a few songs

I think Ice Cream Part II was on that joint, which is one of the worst songs ever. That shyt was wack as fukk. lmao
 

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Forever >> 36

Easily at that imo


REVISIONISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





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My favourite wu release

prime deck
Prime ghost
Prime Rae
Prime rza production
Prime meth/Gza
 
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Then quality of rap music tanked after Pac and Big died if we being honest. And Rap has never been the same since. I feel like soulless mainstream corporate America fully took over Rap after Biggie died. RZA even said it on Forever that the music of the last year had been weak. 96’ really was the last year of the golden era. If we being even more honest, there’s only been a handful of certified classics dropped after 96’ (i.e. the Blueprint). Between 88’ and 96’, there were classic albums dropping like every month. But that came to halt in 97’. It would be wrong to say Forever was on the same tier as Cuban Linx, Liquid Swords or 36 Chambers. It’s just that the quality of Rap has fallen off so much, that anything from the 90’s sounds classic today.
 

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Higher level of production and rhyming, easy work. Im not saying 36 is wack or removed from classic status:martin:




Ive always felt that way :ufdup:
Higher level of production? You are nuts. RZA was clearly on the decline when Forever released. Triumph is an amazing beat and song but a lot of his other work on that album just wasn’t up to par with his early shyt. As for Ironman. Also, that was a great album with All I Got Is You as a hit. But let’s not pretend that album was on the same level as OB4CL. It obviously wasn’t when it dropped. It just wasn’t an instant classic.
 
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Deck was not fukking around on Forever



My rap style swing like Willie Mays
My eyes purple haze, my solar rays’ll burn through shades
Rhyme grenades raid the airwaves, catch this rap page
I glide like, hovercrafts on the Everglades
Boom master with the faster blade, track slasher
Manufacture poems to microphones, bones fracture
Limited edition, composition, spark friction
Non-fiction, the calm bomb, keep your arm distant
Zero tolerance, dominant intelligence
Wu original, true colors stem from the melanin
The most high, most try, to get close by
And overthrow I, but choke, with they hopes up high
I circulate the tri-state and vibrate beyond the Richter
Fly sistas flock when they spot this live nikka
The crowd seducer, black your third eye before I lose ya
Verbal high, leave styes in the eyes of Medusa
Top ten, poly' like Cochran, and Sharpton
Narrow margin, of your odds to dodge the marksman
Murder rap, kill you soft like Roberta Flack
Words attack like a British Bulldog, observe the stats

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I don't give a fukk who got what to say about this album...not even the Wu. shyt is a classic.


You can take almost any Deck verse from the album, and each is better than the next.

Hold up.. That nikkah called that weak azz Lex Diamonds story shyt a classic?

He said that & Immobilarity are classics in one of the other Vlad videos? No point in really taking stock then in his comment about Forever.

Forever >> 36

Easily at that imo

Agree. Understand the importance of 36 in hip hop, but Forever is better IMO. Same with Hell on Earth. Same with Reloaded.
 

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You can take almost any Deck verse from the album, and each is better than the next.



He said that & Immobilarity are classics in one of the other Vlad videos? No point in really taking stock then in his comment about Forever.



Agree. Understand the importance of 36 in hip hop, but Forever is better IMO. Same with Hell on Earth. Same with Reloaded.
Hell on Earth is not better than The Infamous. And I love both albums.
 

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Higher level of production? You are nuts. RZA was clearly on the decline when Forever released. Triumph is an amazing beat and song but a lot of his other work on that album just wasn’t up to par with his early shyt. As for Ironman. Also, that was a great album with All I Got Is You as a hit. But let’s not pretend that album was on the same level as OB4CL. It obviously wasn’t when it dropped. It just wasn’t an instant classic.

For Heavens Sake and Itz Yourz >>>

C'mon breh:francis:
 
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