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t isn’t men that are douche bag perverts who simply want to use and objectify women, but it’s us. That’s depressing as one of, I suppose, the tiny percentage of decent women around. I’ve been blaming men for just being shallow and looking just for sex but maybe we have forced and driven men to treat us that way. I’ve never gotten along with girls and my best friends have always been guys and this is exactly the reason why.

I’m really pretty pissed off at other women for ruining my chance of having any future with a good guy. Women use men too I guess. For money, attention, feed their egos, whatever. Well, I’m not going to give up because just like there are at least a few really good women who are also attractive, there has to be men left with the same qualities. Both sexes have been treated like crap by each other and no one trusts anyone.

Wow. I can’t believe I’m only just now seeing this. I’m so fortunate to have found this blog! Even if it is a place for pissed off men to vent their frustrations to all the “drama queen psychotic bytches” they have had to be in any way involved with. Sucks to be me. Sucks to be you too huh? On behalf of my gender I’m sorry, and that’s not sarcasm. Girls suck and I’ve always known this since I was a little kid. So how did I miss this? huh…”
people in genreal have the potential to be fukked up human beings or to be great. both men and women need to realize this. i think women have their own typical behavior of "evil" in them and same for us. some of it is learned and some could be hardwired within us. I think all we need to do (again both men and women) is to manage our own boundaries and be disciplined and principled about it. that way, you'll attract all sorts of people but only the ones who respect your boundries will stay in your life. the only problem is that ego thing that makes us think we can keep someone forever no matter what they feel. because if someone doesn't want to stay due to certain boundaries you have, the only way to keep them is to slightly change your boundaries just for them (aka play the game). and that's when you run into trouble cause you end up playing yourself.
 

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I'm going to rededicate my life to Jesus. You go around and look in the world and look for satisfaction, and it's not there. The Bible says seek first the Kingdom of God and all these things shall be added unto you. In other words, seek God, do the right things and all of these other things, including women, will be added to you... but as men, we want to do everything of our own desires and wills. Consider the story of Genesis with Adam and Eve. When Adam left the will of God to pursue the will of his woman, he too was thrown out of the Garden of Eden. How many of us do the same? Sacrificing our character, generosity and our will to pursue women instead of working to pursue the will of God? And we end in this endless merry-go-round of dishonesty, mistrust, headache and heartache.
 
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elaborate breh

Before I get into the anecdote, I'll say that the word "inspires" should probably not have been used. I'm mostly frightened. I'm only inspired in the single, trying-to-smash, state of mind. This type of nonsense is not beneficial at all when/if trying to find something substantial and significant.

Anyways, girls initiating hangout sessions and then flaking is a bit of a trend, and those girls acting like everything is all gravy when in person is a bit of a trend as well. Will try to get out all the necessary info in as little paragraphs as possible, I apologize in advance.

There's a girl, we'll call her VO, and a guy, we'll call him BK.

I've known BK longer than VO. I met VO on Cinco De Mayo. BK & VO were sexually involved at the time, I don't think they were exclusive though, I'm pretty sure that they weren't. VO likes to blow trees but BK doesn't. VO inquires about me burning with her and I obliged, and she said that she envisioned us being "good friends." Initially, I thought that she made the comment on basis of my fondness of weed, but it as her tone of voice and her body language that had me curious.

VO is an eccentric gal. Very expressive, displays assertiveness at times and shyt, displays impatience and anger at others. There's some Mexican spot she wanted to go to, that no one else seemed interested in, and she was angry. At BK's crib she's telling me about it, and asks me if I'd like to go. I ask, "is BK going, too?" she replies "no" and says that "it should be fine."

Never ended up going but did burn with her (in the vicinity of other people). When I left, I told her that I owed her for smoking me out. Nothing serious, just me trying to be cordial and reciprocating.

VO is a liberated gal. Got a sense of that from first meeting her, got more of a sense of that through a discussion with BK about her antics, and even more of a sense of that when I ran into her a month after meeting her. Quick thing to note, during the convo with BK, he made it seem as though he'd be down if me and her did end up doing something. I'm not/wasn't trying to pursue this girl, but the concept of her fellatio game came up, and BK doesn't like dome, and I love it, so he was like "you should link up with VO"

I exchange numbers with VO the 2nd time seeing her. Was at a party. She was clearly inebriated and the concept of me owing her a smokeout came up. She was hugged up with some dude, but still got really close to me and kissed me on the cheek before leaving. I sent a message to her phone with my name upon initially getting her number. This was around 2 a.m. She sends a "hi" back at around 3 something. Even though I was still very awake, I shouldn't have said anything back. I did, and then about 12+ hours later, I inquired about a match session which got a "Would love to but I'm dry" response. Cool, you're sober now, you've reached your senses. Let's just delete this number

I run into VO again two nights ago at a bar. She's extra faded, brehs. I show up to the bar dolo, and this girl was heavily on my D when she spotted me. She's being kind of nasty, nasty in the sense that she was trash talking the folks she was with to me. She was verbalizing that sweet talk to me, as well. Telling me that she has a crush on me, and that I'm beautiful, and all that jazz :dahell:

The "I would like to smoke you out and watch Netflix" talk came up QUICKLY. She was trying to plot an escape route. Weird situation because she drove two cats there, but wanted to find the best way to leave them at the bar. More silliness about this, one of the guys she wants to leave sells bud, and she needs to pick up more bud :snoop:

Brehs, I'm the one who owes this girl a smokeout. But now she's telling me that she wants to do me a favor for "making her day" on Cinco De Mayo. Now I'm a really great person & shyt. "I hope I'm not being too forward," she said. Deadass, she brought up the whole, go back to the apartment, smoke, and watch something, idea like 4 or 5 times, trying to see if I was down, and I told this chick yes the first time.

The fukkery magnified when BK shows up to the bar. I don't talk to BK like that to even know where he stands with this girl, but the impact of emotional ties that sex brings is real, like my mans Reincar has stated. When I asked a closer friend about the status of VO & BK a month prior, he told me that he didn't know, and to ask BK.Also, no escape route can be that successful when this grungy bar is a one way in, one way out kind of setup.

VO & BK end up speaking. I clearly remember VO telling me BK that I was her "saving grace" :snoop: She was putting her freedom on full display. Here's what's frightening to me: seems like sexual liberation trumps all boundaries. Trumps all limits. Me and BK aren't best pals, but I'm cool enough with this cat that I'd feel hella weird for consciously doing physical things with a woman that still has an impact on his feelings. Maybe that's me being too selfless, because I'm sure there's some cats I'm fairly cool with that would get it crackin with a broad I'm involved with no hesitation, but it's still an odd scenario. That's a big test of maturity.

VO might've told BK something about making love, had to have told him something. Peep this. Me and VO are in her whip, nug acquired, and parking in her apartment complex. We're about to burn, watch cartoons, and then who knows? BK probably had an idea, because not even 15 seconds after VO pulled into her spot, I see this nigguh, brehs. :krs:

I turn to VO, and ask, "You knew he would be here?" and she says "no, no I didn't."

It's around 3 in the morning brehs, and these two are arguing hard AF. VO is unstable, but I found out that BK is, as well. I'm sitting here stuck.
VO:" You're never assertive enough, BK, you're not assertive"
BK: "I'll be assertive with you right now"
VO:"BK get out of here!"
BK:"You always do this! Will you just talk to me?!"

Just a small bit of the fight I had to endure. I'm too far from the crib to walk, brehs. I'm so conflicted, I'm so confused, so perplexed by the situation that I'm numb. VO wants me to hop back in the whip so she can drop me back off at the crib, cause night's over now at this point, but BK wanted to drop me off too, I figure that he thinks that if I got in the whip with VO, that something would still go down. There was like a 3-5 minute window of them both begging me to get in their cars. One of the saddest moments of my life, brehs.

TL;DR cliffs version
Reasons for my fear:

-Noticing a correlation between sexual liberation and mental/emotional instability.
-Hardly anyone keeps it 1hunna.
-Seems like some women like to cover their tracks, or keep their text-slates clean. Chick tells me that she has a crush on me and all this other lofty jazz, but doesn't really say anything to me through text
-The impact of inebriation is massive. Chicks are getting wavy, and then uncovering all their interior motives and feelings. Kind of good in a sense that if you're single, and catch a chick that's flaking on you, maybe you'll have success. Very scary if this type of gal is one you're partnered up with, and you're not out with her on a particular night.
-Trust issues. Most of this makes me think of trust issues. You could be with a girl, and she'll be all "Baby I don't like him, I promise, he text me and I didn't say shyt back, I promise" but, that impromptu encounter, inebriation thing could cause some wrinkles.

All case-relative though, I'm not saying that this stuff happens in full, this are just my scenarios. Sorry for the essay. Hopefully my cliffsnotes suffice.
 

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Before I get into the anecdote, I'll say that the word "inspires" should probably not have been used. I'm mostly frightened. I'm only inspired in the single, trying-to-smash, state of mind. This type of nonsense is not beneficial at all when/if trying to find something substantial and significant.

Anyways, girls initiating hangout sessions and then flaking is a bit of a trend, and those girls acting like everything is all gravy when in person is a bit of a trend as well. Will try to get out all the necessary info in as little paragraphs as possible, I apologize in advance.

There's a girl, we'll call her VO, and a guy, we'll call him BK.

I've known BK longer than VO. I met VO on Cinco De Mayo. BK & VO were sexually involved at the time, I don't think they were exclusive though, I'm pretty sure that they weren't. VO likes to blow trees but BK doesn't. VO inquires about me burning with her and I obliged, and she said that she envisioned us being "good friends." Initially, I thought that she made the comment on basis of my fondness of weed, but it as her tone of voice and her body language that had me curious.

VO is an eccentric gal. Very expressive, displays assertiveness at times and shyt, displays impatience and anger at others. There's some Mexican spot she wanted to go to, that no one else seemed interested in, and she was angry. At BK's crib she's telling me about it, and asks me if I'd like to go. I ask, "is BK going, too?" she replies "no" and says that "it should be fine."

Never ended up going but did burn with her (in the vicinity of other people). When I left, I told her that I owed her for smoking me out. Nothing serious, just me trying to be cordial and reciprocating.

VO is a liberated gal. Got a sense of that from first meeting her, got more of a sense of that through a discussion with BK about her antics, and even more of a sense of that when I ran into her a month after meeting her. Quick thing to note, during the convo with BK, he made it seem as though he'd be down if me and her did end up doing something. I'm not/wasn't trying to pursue this girl, but the concept of her fellatio game came up, and BK doesn't like dome, and I love it, so he was like "you should link up with VO"

I exchange numbers with VO the 2nd time seeing her. Was at a party. She was clearly inebriated and the concept of me owing her a smokeout came up. She was hugged up with some dude, but still got really close to me and kissed me on the cheek before leaving. I sent a message to her phone with my name upon initially getting her number. This was around 2 a.m. She sends a "hi" back at around 3 something. Even though I was still very awake, I shouldn't have said anything back. I did, and then about 12+ hours later, I inquired about a match session which got a "Would love to but I'm dry" response. Cool, you're sober now, you've reached your senses. Let's just delete this number

I run into VO again two nights ago at a bar. She's extra faded, brehs. I show up to the bar dolo, and this girl was heavily on my D when she spotted me. She's being kind of nasty, nasty in the sense that she was trash talking the folks she was with to me. She was verbalizing that sweet talk to me, as well. Telling me that she has a crush on me, and that I'm beautiful, and all that jazz :dahell:

The "I would like to smoke you out and watch Netflix" talk came up QUICKLY. She was trying to plot an escape route. Weird situation because she drove two cats there, but wanted to find the best way to leave them at the bar. More silliness about this, one of the guys she wants to leave sells bud, and she needs to pick up more bud :snoop:

Brehs, I'm the one who owes this girl a smokeout. But now she's telling me that she wants to do me a favor for "making her day" on Cinco De Mayo. Now I'm a really great person & shyt. "I hope I'm not being too forward," she said. Deadass, she brought up the whole, go back to the apartment, smoke, and watch something, idea like 4 or 5 times, trying to see if I was down, and I told this chick yes the first time.

The fukkery magnified when BK shows up to the bar. I don't talk to BK like that to even know where he stands with this girl, but the impact of emotional ties that sex brings is real, like my mans Reincar has stated. When I asked a closer friend about the status of VO & BK a month prior, he told me that he didn't know, and to ask BK.Also, no escape route can be that successful when this grungy bar is a one way in, one way out kind of setup.

VO & BK end up speaking. I clearly remember VO telling me BK that I was her "saving grace" :snoop: She was putting her freedom on full display. Here's what's frightening to me: seems like sexual liberation trumps all boundaries. Trumps all limits. Me and BK aren't best pals, but I'm cool enough with this cat that I'd feel hella weird for consciously doing physical things with a woman that still has an impact on his feelings. Maybe that's me being too selfless, because I'm sure there's some cats I'm fairly cool with that would get it crackin with a broad I'm involved with no hesitation, but it's still an odd scenario. That's a big test of maturity.

VO might've told BK something about making love, had to have told him something. Peep this. Me and VO are in her whip, nug acquired, and parking in her apartment complex. We're about to burn, watch cartoons, and then who knows? BK probably had an idea, because not even 15 seconds after VO pulled into her spot, I see this nigguh, brehs. :krs:

I turn to VO, and ask, "You knew he would be here?" and she says "no, no I didn't."

It's around 3 in the morning brehs, and these two are arguing hard AF. VO is unstable, but I found out that BK is, as well. I'm sitting here stuck.
VO:" You're never assertive enough, BK, you're not assertive"
BK: "I'll be assertive with you right now"
VO:"BK get out of here!"
BK:"You always do this! Will you just talk to me?!"

Just a small bit of the fight I had to endure. I'm too far from the crib to walk, brehs. I'm so conflicted, I'm so confused, so perplexed by the situation that I'm numb. VO wants me to hop back in the whip so she can drop me back off at the crib, cause night's over now at this point, but BK wanted to drop me off too, I figure that he thinks that if I got in the whip with VO, that something would still go down. There was like a 3-5 minute window of them both begging me to get in their cars. One of the saddest moments of my life, brehs.

TL;DR cliffs version
Reasons for my fear:

-Noticing a correlation between sexual liberation and mental/emotional instability.
-Hardly anyone keeps it 1hunna.
-Seems like some women like to cover their tracks, or keep their text-slates clean. Chick tells me that she has a crush on me and all this other lofty jazz, but doesn't really say anything to me through text
-The impact of inebriation is massive. Chicks are getting wavy, and then uncovering all their interior motives and feelings. Kind of good in a sense that if you're single, and catch a chick that's flaking on you, maybe you'll have success. Very scary if this type of gal is one you're partnered up with, and you're not out with her on a particular night.
-Trust issues. Most of this makes me think of trust issues. You could be with a girl, and she'll be all "Baby I don't like him, I promise, he text me and I didn't say shyt back, I promise" but, that impromptu encounter, inebriation thing could cause some wrinkles.

All case-relative though, I'm not saying that this stuff happens in full, this are just my scenarios. Sorry for the essay. Hopefully my cliffsnotes suffice.
the chick VO was trying to use you to ether BK's soul.

your dude BK might be a cool dude or whatever but he's kinda slipping at this point. He's trying to own the chick but he doesn't realize she's not his anymore. she belongs to the game...
 

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the chick VO was trying to use you to ether BK's soul.

your dude BK might be a cool dude or whatever but he's kinda slipping at this point. He's trying to own the chick but he doesn't realize she's not his anymore. she belongs to the game...

They ALL belong to the game. What my n*gga @kevm3 has been saying throughout the thread is a hundred percent true, YOU DON'T OWN THE P*SSY AND YOU NEVER WILL. Once a chick has decided she wants to f*ck someone else then there is nothing you can do about it, charge her to the game. I'm never going to compromise myself over a woman that's not related to me
 
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When you said you didn't want to knock her down because your potna BK was feeling for her, you were thinking along the right lines. That's called having integrity, and that is something that is grossly missing in this day and age. Cats end up fighting and losing trust for each other over these women and one fella might end up in jail and the other one ends up not seeing another day. You simply have to hold your honor and integrity above popping one off in some shady broad. Let me tell you something. I still got the vast majority of my old school potnas riding with me today. Where in the world are all those broads? The vast majority of them, as soon as they found some new guy or I didn't give them the feelies anymore, they don't even bother stop by saying hey, how are you doing? I do have a few cool female friends that are still here to this day, but the point is, don't cross your potnas out over some broad.
 

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Whore is not about a number; it’s about her decision-making abilities and the value she assigns to sexual congress. Women are the gatekeepers of sex, so the men she lets through the gates – regardless of how many or how few – tells you everything you need to know about her relationship value. I don’t care if she’s slept with 5 men or 50 men; her sexual past reveals her relationship worth and ability to make sound decisions.

Take for instance a healthy 28 year old woman. In my experience, your average American woman has had anywhere between 12 and 23 sexual partners by this time. Let’s call it an average of 17. A reasonable man would not assume that all 17 men dumped her, or that she dumped all 17; a myriad of reasons, situations, emotions and circumstances led her to this place. So what does this tell us? It tells us that a number of men just had fun with her (promiscuity), she had to bounce a number of men after she opened her womb to them (bad decision making), and a number of men sampled a mini relationship with her for a while and decided not to keep her around (low value).

So, beta, which of those three traits – promiscuity, bad decision making, and low value – would you like to have instilled in your children? Which of those traits do you believe will make her an excellent wife? Which of these traits do you believe will not increase your likelihood of being cheated on or landing in divorce court? Can you see yourself waking up in the morning, rolling over, looking at her and thinking “Thank God I’ve committed to a worthless whore who has a 15 year long track record of making bad decisions?

Betas cower in fear and quickly acquiesce when confronted with shaming language. “I’m not like that anymore”, “You can’t judge me”, and “A woman’s worth is not decided by her sexual past” seem to be the go-to responses for women who find themselves in the awkward situation of justifying why they’ve banged more men than can be comfortably seated in a small Family Diner.

For the record, the correct responses are “yes you are”, “yes I can”, and when it comes to marriage, “yes it is.”

Does promiscuity make her a bad employee? Nope. Does it make her a bad friend? Nah. Does it make her an evil person who is likely to knock over a liquor store and steal a getaway car? Not at all. Does a promiscuous past mean she can’t do good in the community and make profound societal contributions? Of course not. Does it make her a high-risk marriage partner and a shytty role model for your children in a society built around the family unit instead of the “it takes a village” approach? According to the church, the Centers for Disease Control, your buddy who laughs at you behind your back, biological evidence, gender anthropologists, a growing number of psychologists, your own gut instincts, and yours truly, yes it most certainly does.

It always amazes me how betas will agree with a woman that her past education reveals her dedication to scholarly pursuits, her past work experience reveals her quest to improve her business acumen, her past payment history reveals her credit worthiness, her past workout routine reveals her desire for a healthy lifestyle, and her past volunteer efforts reveal her heart of gold, but her past sexual habits reveal absolutely nothing.

it’s not fair that a woman who sleeps around is a whore, but men who sleep around are studs.” There’s been more than enough digital ink spilled on this topic in the manosphere, so I won’t go in to it. Everybody knows it’s easy to be a whore, but hard to be a player – and society doesn’t award trophies for doing easy ish. It’s not a double standard; it’s two different standards for two different genders with two different barriers to sexual entry and two different sets of risk factors.

But forget that for a moment. For the sake of this article, let’s assume that the woman’s statement is true. That’s right, let’s assume for a moment that there is an unfair evil double standard afoot.

Why tje hell do you care? If you’re a beta male looking for marriage, it’s not your job to be fair – this is your life, not a general assembly at the UN. Your job is to find the best mother for your children that you possibly can. It doesn’t matter if you banged 5,000 women on camera last night; you need to find the most competent, capable, qualified, trustworthy, physically and emotionally stable woman you possibly can to help raise your children. Let her worry about your past and whether or not she thinks you’re qualified to be their father, and you focus on her qualifications.

Come to think of it, that’s actually quite fair, wouldn’t you say?



 

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the thing is as i get older and think of it more and more, why even chase after a broad, why even fight over a broad etc., why even put effort into it, when there is some dude out there who she gave it up to on the first night hours after meeting him, when there is some dude out there who has treated her liek garbage and shes so enamoured by him, while you wasting your time, money, effort and getting nothing.
 

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Yeah, when you realize how insane situations can get, you breath a sigh of relief knowing you recognize how crazy it is and how all you have to do to avoid the chaos is take a step back and avoid participating in it. If the odds are not in your favor, don't play the game.
 

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They ALL belong to the game. What my n*gga @kevm3 has been saying throughout the thread is a hundred percent true, YOU DON'T OWN THE P*SSY AND YOU NEVER WILL. Once a chick has decided she wants to f*ck someone else then there is nothing you can do about it, charge her to the game. I'm never going to compromise myself over a woman that's not related to me

That's absolutely right. No matter what you do or think, you will never own her body, so it's best for everyone to get that notion out of your heads. You can pay for her schooling and do her right every day of her life and if she wants, she can still give it up to the next man. So it's a bit mind-boggling to see these guys do jumping jacks, backflips and a whole host of circus tricks for these women and end up looking real foolish when she peels off to the next man.

The one thing you always got to keep in mind is to be at ease and realize you don't owe these females anything, they don't owe you anything, and what they have between their legs really isn't that valuable. It's only because men have brainwashed themselves into thinking they are procuring some special, ultra-valuable diamond for their sole ownership that they are engaging in all of these crazy antics.

The one thing a woman can give you that is actually worth something is what's in her heart. If she grinds it out from you when both of ya'll are at the bottom, then she is definitely worth feasting with when you reach the top.
 
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the chick VO was trying to use you to ether BK's soul.

your dude BK might be a cool dude or whatever but he's kinda slipping at this point. He's trying to own the chick but he doesn't realize she's not his anymore. she belongs to the game...

how I read it too....it's crazy to think how much of peoples actions aren't genuine or sincere, but just a manipulation or a move, and yes, alcohol/drugs factor so heavily into the whole thing, esp. of you in the scene, parties, clubs, whatever, etc etc. I'm lucky in a way, I'm WAY out of the drama of this type shyt, I won't touch the women that hang around my friends, because they are all on some incest shyt, with everyone sleeping with each other, and I see these scenarios just running through everyone all the time, and it's insidious and unhealthy, all the sexual jealousy, frustration, simping, manipulation, emotional blackmail, revenge....it's just a toxic environment.
 
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