Essential Quick Lil Gems on Dealing with Women

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last week , i was talkin to chick on the phone
only whatsapp convo
convo was good and at the end , i told her " there is a party on friday wuld come if you are free"
she said " she working on friday but if im free i will let tou know "
today its friday i sent a msg , till now still no answer :snoop:

wher did i go wrong ?


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Inviting her to a party like you scared of being alone with her. unless you smashing a girl and even then she better be in love with you save the crazy party bullshyt for when trying to pull thots not seduce one.

also its nothing wrong with setting up a date far in advance. Either she'll show up or she wont and if she flakes she would have flaked the next day most likely anyway. People make time for what they really want to do. I always liken it to if some celebrity sex symbol told them they wanted to take them out a month from now. You best believe that bih could have mono but she gonna try to fight through it to make that date. So never take the women are flakey shyt, women are flakey to nikkas they don't want. Become that nikka and it'll start to happen less.
 
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2 mistakes were highlighted in just that one section, but this is a trick question and I will explain at the end. First, if she says she's busy, take it as a no. If she's interested, she'll tell you when she's free in the same conversation. "I work Friday, but I'm off Thursday and Saturday." That open ended "I'll let you know" shyt is her making you an option, not a priority. Plus, if she's at work, she's at work. There shouldn't be any wiggle room after that. There are a few scenarios where she could have gotten the day off, but none of them are in your best interest. For example, she could have called in absent today, but if she's flaking on the people that pay her, what kinda treatment do you think YOU'LL get from her? Or, on a brighter note, she could have switched schedules with a co-worker and got the day off. But if THAT was the case, you would have known about it before today.
Which leads to the second mistake. While I don't agree with Cape saying you call an hour before, I DEFINITELY agree with the call the day before to reconfirm. If you have to call or text her to remind or confirm the day of, that's a lost cause in my book. The only time it's not is if it was a spur of the moment thing, but if you made plans a week ago, it is what it is. Now some guys will argue that broads are flakey, they won't remember that long, yada yada yada, but my counterpoint to that is...who hasn't seen a bytch plan a hair or nails appointment a week or two ahead of time and remember it? No writing it down, no calendar notes, nothing. Why? BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING SHE GENUINELY PLANS TO DO AND IS INTERESTED IN.
But like I said, all of the above is in response to a trick question, because you made mistakes, but only in the process of committing a foul. Have you never heard of not bringing sand to the beach? Why would you want to meet up for the first time at a party? You can't get acquainted, you can't build a rapport, you can't even present yourself as a top prospect in the party in most cases. So yeah, you made mistakes, but you were already offsides anyway.
Yeah I agree with everything you said. I might not call her again an hour before. But the logistical challenges of living in Cape Town and Johannesburg might be adding to me checking with a broad and hour in advance. Also I feel a lot of guys here aim for chicks waaaaaay outta their league with square average Game and just hope for the best. it's also very important to practice your game on average and ugly/fat girls. a lot of guys just wanna bag the baddie without practice and then post these very average to mediocre responses.
not discouraging brehs though. Just give them ugly checks a chance:yeshrug:

I wanted to ask you brehs if you guys had experienced this relatively new phenomenon there that I've been seeing here in South Africa that's very disheartening:

A lot of average looking girls/women who come from middle to upper class backgrounds have pseudo pretty-girl complexes based on their socio economic class. The bytch thinks coz her parents have a Lil bit of disposable income and she speaks "proper" English and lives in the burbs that this makes her anything other than an average looking rich girl. They quite literally feel like they are well above hot hood chicks.

Are there any back ugly "valley" girls there who also exhibit this behaviour. In South Africa it's rampant. upper middle class ugly girls are a headache coz they have internalised white supremacy to the point where they think they've transcended their own blackness and therefore have the same elitist disdain and pseudo superiority complex as cacs towards blacks.

I've dealt with this phenomenon for the last 5 years and counting now. :francis:
 

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I wanted to ask you brehs if you guys had experienced this relatively new phenomenon there that I've been seeing here in South Africa that's very disheartening:

A lot of average looking girls/women who come from middle to upper class backgrounds have pseudo pretty-girl complexes based on their socio economic class. The bytch thinks coz her parents have a Lil bit of disposable income and she speaks "proper" English and lives in the burbs that this makes her anything other than an average looking rich girl. They quite literally feel like they are well above hot hood chicks.

Are there any back ugly "valley" girls there who also exhibit this behaviour. In South Africa it's rampant. upper middle class ugly girls are a headache coz they have internalised white supremacy to the point where they think they've transcended their own blackness and therefore have the same elitist disdain and pseudo superiority complex as cacs towards blacks.

I've dealt with this phenomenon for the last 5 years and counting now. :francis:

man, listen. just find your niche and eat. forget about these "slay queens". I'm no pretty boy by ANY means but I manage to make my presence felt by most chicks I interact with regardless of their financial background. I know most of the women you speak of have this mentality of dudes being required to kiss the ground they walk on but fukk that. Im in my late 20s and keep a decent roster of young blood and i've never been in a date EVER in my life. I think most of these chicks flex on social media until they fukk around and bump into the wrong nikka who wont even be phased by the image she's trying to portray. Their self-hatred aint my problem, im just trynna get the draws and dip :hubie:
 

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Middle of December: I post a pic on Instagram alluding to the fact that I had been in the gym for a year up to that point, not of myself but of weights with a caption on how much better I've felt. She one of the few people who likes it but DM'ed me like I'm mediately, she was typing kind of incoherently so I thought she was drunk but she said it was autocorrect. She said she wanted to talk to me but didn't have my number so I gave it to her. Like I've said I see her as extended family but I don't associate women with coincidence; we've had each other's IG for like 3-4 years but a pic referencing improvement on my physique is what pushed you to attain/reattain my math? :patrice:

So she calls me minutes after I gave her my number (it's late, like after 11) and she's in ATL with her friends loud as fukk in the whip (she lives in the DC area) and she's saying how she misses me and it's been so long (a year and change) since we've seen each other. There was auxillary conversation about how we've been doing but that was the meat of it. She tells me that she'd be in Jersey (where I'm at) around New Year's so I'm like cool we can link up then. I'm a work-gym/studio-home cat so I'm not even sure where I would've taken her but I would've figured out something.

A couple weeks go by and she is in fact here but I had fallen into one of my down moods and this was when the Northeast was Sub-Zero temperature so I didn't make it out.

March: A couple of weeks ago I text her letting her know how I was feeling around the time we was supposed to link up and that if my work schedule changes (my days off are split by an odd work day) I'd try to go down there. I'm a night owl, so this is about midnight. The next afternoon she texts back like "You know who this is?"

I'm like, "Yes, A____...do you know who this is?" :usure: she of course still has my number so it's joke and we were small chatting and she asks my days off. I tell her Mondays, Tuesdays, and Saturdays (odd shyt right?) She's like oh ok I'm usually free on weekends (the female move of offering availability). I'm like I wish I we're too and she tells me she's having a get together and that I could come if I'd like. I said I'd see but I knew I wouldn't be coming at that time cause like I said she's in the DMV and I was thinking when I do go down there it's when I have consecutive days off. She's like okay I understand if you can't come though since I live in Maryland it would be a stretch. I wasn't sure what else to say plus I was on the move so I left it at that.

Another week goes by and she hits me up randomly like "how are you"? So I respond and o eventually ask if she's up here cause I figure if she is we could do something light like lunch or something and just chill. She says she will be the next weekend (this weekend). I'm like okay cool we can get up then. That was on a Tuesday, on that Friday she hits me up again asking if I meant to text her initially. She's referencing the out of the blue text on the 20th apologizing about flaking.
I'm like "what you mean?"
She says "like did you mean to text me...was that meant for me?"
I say "who else would it be for?"
She goes "Just checking since it was random"
I tease her a little about being silly for thinking anything else but I let the convo die.

This weekend: Saturday night she calls me at 3:15 while I'm in the shower. I was gonna either text back on my big break at work (Sunday is a double shift day for me) or call her back after I got off at 9 or 10. I decided I'd take option 2 and get on the phone but she beats me to it, just while I'm working my second shift so I can't answer. She texts saying call her back when I can. I figure she's possibly up here but I find it unlikely since she would've let me know on Thursday or Friday.

So after work (9:30 tonight) I call back and she asks what I'm doing, I tell her I'm leaving work. hat tells me she's looking for advice.
Me: Advice on what?
Her: Well my cousin came up to see me and we went out and she was turnt.
Me: Turnt how?
Her: She was lit!
Me: Drunk?
Her: Yes, I felt like I was her mom.

So she wanted advice on how to let her cousin know that having to control her while she was inebriated was a problem. So I did the best I could and said let her know you like hanging with her but it stops becoming one when only one of you is cognizant, just come with the truth, etc. And she's like "Ah, so wise".

To myself I'm like :skip: but she transitions to small talk asking how my day at work was, asking if it was hard, etc. I assume she knows I'm driving as she says to get home safe and let's me go.

So;
Exhibit A: Reconnection based on prospect of (my) improved aesthetics
Exhibit B: Volunteering free time
Exhibit C: Uncertainty over my text message (comes across like she thinks I was hitting up some other female I'm dating and trying to reconcile), almost a less secure way of saying "I know you be talking to other girls"
Exhibit D: Finding excuses to talk to me (I don't REALLY think she needed MY advice on her cousin lol)

I hope I'm overthinking but like I said, I don't assign the idea of coincidence to women, creatures who live in subtlety. I feel like if I'm right I've left hints I didn't mean to leave.
Nikkka:dwillhuh:

Set up a date/ hangout ASAP & see if there is anything there. The main reason for hanging out or dates is to see if there is potential to be something or just friends.If yall dont hook up, hangout with her & her friends, she will hook you up with her female friends.

Yall not even blood related, you shouldnt feel guilty. You playing with your food nikka:gucci:
 

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Nikkka:dwillhuh:

Set up a date/ hangout ASAP & see if there is anything there. The main reason for hanging out or dates is to see if there is potential to be something or just friends.If yall dont hook up, hangout with her & her friends, she will hook you up with her female friends.

Yall not even blood related, you shouldnt feel guilty. You playing with your food nikka:gucci:
I'm seeing her tomorrow. You can't play with your food when you don't have an appetite for it. I don't look at her that way period.

Most women I've encountered don't go out of their way to hook dudes up with their friends, and even if that was an option she and therefore they don't live here.
 

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Nikkka:dwillhuh:

Set up a date/ hangout ASAP & see if there is anything there. The main reason for hanging out or dates is to see if there is potential to be something or just friends.If yall dont hook up, hangout with her & her friends, she will hook you up with her female friends.

Yall not even blood related, you shouldnt feel guilty. You playing with your food nikka:gucci:
Lol she not gon do that
 

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We are wasting our time brehs wasting our time with these women out here.

Nikkaz doing everything for an avg looking chick to even give us a date we gotta pay for

While there are down to earth lovely women in the world dimes 10/10 raised right waiting for us praying for us.

I'm done with these women in the west let them gargle on two week nut for all I care
 

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We are wasting our time brehs wasting our time with these women out here.

Nikkaz doing everything for an avg looking chick to even give us a date we gotta pay for

While there are down to earth lovely women in the world dimes 10/10 raised right waiting for us praying for us.

I'm done with these women in the west let them gargle on two week nut for all I care
my man talking that talk
3,456 pages, literally on this thread on how to get these hoes to do basic things that they need to be doing anyway
fucc em
 

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I aint no master or non like that :hubie: , im just a student of the game. So i'll just leave this quote from someone else right here for you

Basically i should avoid those whatsapp chat
I shuld call and meet her in person

Dats right , when chatting with a chick that you like
You giving her too much power
All she gotta do is leave you in blue check, and dats all you have been ignoring


Call > chatting
 

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last week , i was talkin to chick on the phone
only whatsapp convo
convo was good and at the end , i told her " there is a party on friday wuld come if you are free"
she said " she working on friday but if im free i will let tou know "
today its friday i sent a msg , till now still no answer :snoop:

wher did i go wrong ?


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Intentionallly not reading other replies to this to see if nikkas think like me...

You went wrong with the msg on Friday. You told shorty about the party, she told you she was working (that was already pretty much her way of saying she can't make it) so you should have left it at that...she told you SHE would let YOU know. You fukked up but it's not unsalvageable

Now let me see what everyone else said...
 

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Both sides present issues...

For my personality, i rather take a chance on potential...

Which means the immaturity that can come with that...

Having your shyt together can be worse because she gonna feel threatened because she can't have leverage in the relationship...

You may be on to something with the potential thing...

Slightly disagree on leverage. The less leverage a b1tch has on a nikka the better. Someone said earlier "the moment she stops seeing you as a prize is the moment it's over"

Give that nikka an award, truer words have rarely been spoken
 

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Don't wanna keep quoting nikkas posts but making plans in advance isn't the end of the world. If we're talking weeks, no way. I do this naturally but generally you shouldn't be arranging a date on a weekend for the FOLLOWING week. Save the planning until MONDAY at the earliest e.g. for a Friday or Saturday hook up...(even better a Tues or Wed)

And my thing is I'll never tell them where we're going. I'll just make rough plans on some "make sure you're ready for 8"

Keep the chat inbetween to a minimum, even better nothing at all...

Then on the day at say 1/2o clock, I'll msg on some "meet me at X for 8pm" sh1t

I'm giving you nikkas game with this one, this sh1t is yet to fail me.......
 

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You may be on to something with the potential thing...

Slightly disagree on leverage. The less leverage a b1tch has on a nikka the better. Someone said earlier "the moment she stops seeing you as a prize is the moment it's over"

Give that nikka an award, truer words have rarely been spoken

I should have worded my thoughts better...

Some women are used to being the "man"of the relationship..like the one you described

its a job within itself to properly rearrange their mindset so they dont become too dependent or try to throw that independent woman mindset in your direction...

creating leverage with those types are tricky
 
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