Question: Why is it always held against Kobe that he played with Shaq when Magic had Kareem?

[Osmosis]

Kobe won more without shaq than shaq did without Kobe

Shaq had like seven years on Kobe. He was basically done after the Heat title.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

I don’t understand how people don’t see this

nikkaz either didn’t watch, forgot, or just hate Kobe so much that they can’t discuss this topic without coming up with bullshyt to make their points.

So basically, this is now a dead and buried talking point.

 

[CHICAGO]

All five of Kobe’s rings should be respected whether he was the focal point or shared the spotlight.

ALL 5 OF KOBES RINGS ARE RESPECTED.

YOURE CONFUSING THE LeGBT COMMUNITY
WITH REAL LIFE.

YEA KOBE WAS THE SIDEKICK FOR THE 1ST 3
BUT NO PLAYER HAS EVER HELD THAT AGAINST HIM.

BRON STANS USE THAT SIDEKICK shyt
TO PROP UP HIS 3 FMVPS OVER KOBES 2
SINCE THEY KNOW HE WONT
CATCH KOBE IN RINGS.

EVERYBODY ELSE WILL TELL YOU
5 BEATS 3 EVERYTIME.



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[god shamgod]

What about Kobe’s perimeter defense? I mean after all he does have the most first team defense appearances

His defense was decent but the media overrated it, kobe was getting 1st team all defense off name and made it over wade a couple seasons when he shouldn't have

the media dumb af they gave westbrook mvp over harden based off averaging a triple double

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Kobe won more without shaq than shaq did without Kobe

Shaq won more in LA as THE MAN though.

Kobe = Wesley Person with a green light

Martha

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

MJ
Kareem
Magic
Bird
Wilt
Lebron
Shaq
Hakeem
Russell
Duncan

 

[10bandz]

MJ
Kareem
Magic
Bird
Wilt
Lebron
Shaq
Hakeem
Russell
Duncan

 

[Po pimp]

Everyone knows Kobe was the sidekick. He was 21-23 when they threepeated while Shaq was in his prime and unstoppable at ages 28-30. By the time Kobe hit his prime, Shaq was on the decline.

 

[10bandz]

Shaq had like seven years on Kobe. He was basically done after the Heat title.

Shaq had his chances in ORL. Shaq also had a team with 4 all stars in the late 90s and kept losing to Utah and SA. It wasn't until Phil arrived and Kobe got to his twenties that Shaq was able to win.

1998 Lakers won 61 games and had 4 all stars and got swept in the CONF Finals.....this was when SHAQ was the leader without a seasoned Kobe to save him....

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

They both benefited from each other but shaq was the key cog that's all I'm saying.I watched that lakers dynasty I remember it vividly

afro kobe was skilled and use to kill teams but wasn't ready to lead yet, he eventually got there the 2nd go round with phil after acquiring pau

That’s more fair to say given age and maturity. But even with that, I’m simply saying that in terms of his skill level as a player he wasn’t a sidekick level player like Pau was but it was officially Shaq’s team.

My issue is with people characterizing Kobe and his rings like he wasn’t a top 5 player for the majority of the 3peat run.

ALL 5 OF KOBES RINGS ARE RESPECTED.

YOURE CONFUSING THE LeGBT COMMUNITY
WITH REAL LIFE.

YEA KOBE WAS THE SIDEKICK FOR THE 1ST 3
BUT NO PLAYER HAS EVER HELD THAT AGAINST HIM.

BRON STANS USE THAT SIDEKICK shyt
TO PROP UP HIS 3 FMVPS OVER KOBES 2
SINCE THEY KNOW HE WONT
CATCH KOBE IN RINGS.

EVERYBODY ELSE WILL TELL YOU
5 BEATS 3 EVERYTIME.



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Absolutely, I just want the record set straight. The less trash their types are able to post the better for the rest of us.

 

[McPiff]

Magic was the alpha on 4/5 rings he won with Kareem, and is treated as such

Kareem is considered an all time great as well, but not generally on Mikes level because he wasnt the alpha on many of his title teams

if your theory was correct, Kareem would be considered a near consensus GOAT - but hes not because of playing off of Magic for many of his titles

Thread should've been closed right here.

 

[Boonapalist]

Kareem got robbed of the 1980 NBA Finals MVP

So in actuality, its really

Magic 2
Kareem 2
Worthy 1

in terms of Finals MVP during the Showtime runs

If we’re gonna do that than it should be

Magic 3
Kareem 2

Worthy got awarded the Finals MVP off the final game just like Magic did.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Kareem was on the decline when Magic got there.

Yep.And Shaq was entering his prime when he signed with the Lakers

 

[10bandz]

Bron fans all in here saying Magic was the alpha for 4 rings......SAME Bron fans who say Bron is better than Magic even tho he was less rings

I see Bron fans here shyt on Magic ALL the time now he was the alpha and Kareem didn't do shyt

 

[KamikazePilot]

Kobe dikkriders not even a Lakers fan