Question for you atheists on here about what you believe?

[Blackking]

@intilectual recipricol

We have no way of understanding anything outside our current understanding of causality. Basically, imo, everything has a cause, the cause doesn't have to be God, but what we do know is that- because it had a cause; we then know that all this could have just not been created in the first place. Our very existence brings on questions of reason and purpose.

The universe could have, just as easily, not existed in the first place.. which is why, outside of God being the cause, we have to wonder what the purpose is. Due to the complexities of our physical laws and the fact that our consciousness is advanced enough to even discuss this sh1t - it would be statistically improbable for the existence of an entire universe to happen at random - when it could have just not happened at all.

And we do have examples of things causing other things to exist. Right now I'm just me. If I nut in a woman during her right cycle, she will grow a baby.. that baby could have easily not existed if I'd spent that day on xvideos. I guess we could say that baby is a random.. but we can't say it's without cause.

I don't place my complete understanding of everything I know an a limited understanding of God,, because that would cause me to wonder who created God and send me into an infinite cycle of questions. And we accept gravity because we observe the effects..... However at the same time we assume big bang as an all-inclusive explanation without being able to observe the majority of it's assumptions. On Nasa's website they say "technically you cannot just create matter out of energy". We can use experiments to show extreme densities and high temperatures - but truthfully we don't know how the universe was created - we can only make hypothesis and chose one to except.

Why do atheist meditate?

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

@intilectual recipricol
Why do atheist meditate?

cause it feels good man.

As to the OP, I'm an agnostic because I can't disprove the existence of God, but if it does exist I picture it as an elemental force or concept, not an anthropomorphized being with an active interest in our morality, decisions, or ultimate fate in any sense at all.

 

[Blackking]

cause it feels good man.
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I guess that's why there are satanist that meditate as well.

most people I know who aren't religious- meditate based on supernatural reasons and goals.. like laws of attraction and connecting to the universe or whatever.

I would guess an atheist would just get that Hydrocodone

 

[jmspro]

I didn't ask to come here. I didn't ask to play this game. I don't like the rules you have to play by in most religions (esp. Christianity). There is no free will that these people speak of because if there was I would have had a choice from the very start. I'm not bitter or anything. I'm a naturally happy and upbeat person. Im a good dude also who will help somebody if they really needed it. I dont need religion or a higher power to make me feel special or to feel like I should be rewarded for living a certain way.

 

[you're NOT "n!ggas"]

I guess that's why there are satanist that meditate as well.

most people I know who aren't religious- meditate based on supernatural reasons and goals.. like laws of attraction and connecting to the universe or whatever.

I would guess an atheist would just get that Hydrocodone

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What happens when you meditate?
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its all about knowledge of self

 

[Sunalmighty]

I got a question. We all know how religion tells us to believe a certain way, and if you don't, there will be consequences. My question is, in the mind of an Atheist, what are the consequences of BELIEVING?

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

its all about knowledge of self

TM IS A BUSINESS, BROTHER! IF IT'S TRULY AN ENLIGHTENING TECHNIQUE, WHY ARE THEY SELLING IT, DUDE?

 

[acri1]

I got a question. We all know how religion tells us to believe a certain way, and if you don't, there will be consequences. My question is, in the mind of an Atheist, what are the consequences of BELIEVING?

1. Walking around all day being afraid you'll go to hell for this or that

2. Missing out on certain things in this life (such as alcohol or premarital sex ) because they're against your religion

3. Having to sit up in a boring ass church (or mosque...or something) for hours every Sunday when you could be sleeping in

4. Possibly getting molested if you're Catholic

5. Being indoctrinated to believe things that you would otherwise recognize were silly (earth being 6000 years old, talking snakes, etc.)

6. Believing that this life isn't that important since you'll get another one and thus not living it to the fullest


But honestly, I think it's less about consequences than whether you think there actually is a god or that a certain religion is correct.

 

[intilectual recipricol]

@intilectual recipricol

We have no way of understanding anything outside our current understanding of causality. Basically, imo, everything has a cause, the cause doesn't have to be God, but what we do know is that- because it had a cause; we then know that all this could have just not been created in the first place. Our very existence brings on questions of reason and purpose.

The universe could have, just as easily, not existed in the first place.. which is why, outside of God being the cause, we have to wonder what the purpose is. Due to the complexities of our physical laws and the fact that our consciousness is advanced enough to even discuss this sh1t - it would be statistically improbable for the existence of an entire universe to happen at random - when it could have just not happened at all.

And we do have examples of things causing other things to exist. Right now I'm just me. If I nut in a woman during her right cycle, she will grow a baby.. that baby could have easily not existed if I'd spent that day on xvideos. I guess we could say that baby is a random.. but we can't say it's without cause.

I don't place my complete understanding of everything I know an a limited understanding of God,, because that would cause me to wonder who created God and send me into an infinite cycle of questions. And we accept gravity because we observe the effects..... However at the same time we assume big bang as an all-inclusive explanation without being able to observe the majority of it's assumptions. On Nasa's website they say "technically you cannot just create matter out of energy". We can use experiments to show extreme densities and high temperatures - but truthfully we don't know how the universe was created - we can only make hypothesis and chose one to except.

Why do atheist meditate?

In our day to day life I would agree that everything has a cause. However, even using the word "created" shows a bias. When you assume that everything must have a creator youre left with two options, your god must have a creator, or you are special pleading.

True, the universe could have not existed, but it does and we have no evidence of non-existence to even pose a counter.

We dont have evidence of causing things to exist. If you nut in a chick and she gets pregnant all you did was use shyt that was already here and change its form. The laws of conservation of energy and conservation of mass address this. They cannot be created nor destroyed they change forms. IE when you die, you dont cease to exist you disintegrate back into the particles we are made of and the bacteria and micro organisms eat you. The suns energy is consumed and changed by plants into chlorophyll, the herbivores get energy by eating the plants, carnivores get energy by eating the herbivores. Nothing is created, only recycled.

The big bang only explains the first few seconds after expansion began, but all the stuff that makes up the universe was compressed into one point... due to gravity. I cant claim to know the entirety of the theory, but I understand it well enough.

As for meditation, I dont know, I dont do it... though sometimes I do take time to just go deep in thought... usually with some cognac to unwind... I do it to figure shyt out, plan my next shyt, etc.

 

[you're NOT "n!ggas"]

TM IS A BUSINESS, BROTHER! IF IT'S TRULY AN ENLIGHTENING TECHNIQUE, WHY ARE THEY SELLING IT, DUDE?

i don't do "tm", that post was about meditation in the general sense.

 

[dennis roadman]

Why do atheist meditate?

ask the samkhyas

 

[Blackking]

In our day to day life I would agree that everything has a cause. However, even using the word "created" shows a bias. When you assume that everything must have a creator youre left with two options, your god must have a creator, or you are special pleading.

True, the universe could have not existed, but it does and we have no evidence of non-existence to even pose a counter.

We dont have evidence of causing things to exist. If you nut in a chick and she gets pregnant all you did was use shyt that was already here and change its form. The laws of conservation of energy and conservation of mass address this. They cannot be created nor destroyed they change forms. IE when you die, you dont cease to exist you disintegrate back into the particles we are made of and the bacteria and micro organisms eat you. The suns energy is consumed and changed by plants into chlorophyll, the herbivores get energy by eating the plants, carnivores get energy by eating the herbivores. Nothing is created, only recycled.

The big bang only explains the first few seconds after expansion began, but all the stuff that makes up the universe was compressed into one point... due to gravity. I cant claim to know the entirety of the theory, but I understand it well enough.

yes I was special pleading - anything else would drive a person crazy.

But I'm not sure why, if The big bang theory only speaks to what happens after the universe begins to expand - Do people even bring it up in regards to a conversation about the creation of the Universe or as a catalyst for the universe's existence. Scientist say that at a certain time (a concept we invented, like we supposedly invented gods). If something starts at a certain time, that means that it didn't happen previous to that. 14 B years ago was the start - but for what reason? Why then?

Also, I don't think I'm being far fetch to say that- Something's existence is evidence of it's creation... not even to imply a 'creator' for sure... but it shows it's creation. Hopefully this makes sense the way I explain it :
1. the big bang is something that I believe accurately describes the beginning of the universe. 2. the effects of the extremely hot dense state cooling and creating particles and hydrogen were temporary effects of the 'bang' . 3. obviously, whatever 'begins' to exist has a cause of its existence. And that's not the same as saying that 'everything' has a cause - because something would have had to cause the first thing. Really what I'm saying is, that the temporary effects that happened because of the big bang had some sort of catalyst that sparked the initial cosmological explosion. 4. Something unlimited and infinite would have had to spark the expansion of whatever came first and created the beginning time. 5. Which is y people historical have described something that doesn't follow our rules of physics, time, limits, and dimensions as the creator.

 

[Blackking]

1. Walking around all day being afraid you'll go to hell for this or that

2. Missing out on certain things in this life (such as alcohol or premarital sex ) because they're against your religion

3. Having to sit up in a boring ass church (or mosque...or something) for hours every Sunday when you could be sleeping in

4. Possibly getting molested if you're Catholic

5. Being indoctrinated to believe things that you would otherwise recognize were silly (earth being 6000 years old, talking snakes, etc.)

6. Believing that this life isn't that important since you'll get another one and thus not living it to the fullest


But honestly, I think it's less about consequences than whether you think there actually is a god or that a certain religion is correct.

But none of this is true but #4 ... and that's rare. too often, but rare.

 

[acri1]

But none of this is true but #4 ... and that's rare. too often, but rare.

How you figure?

Every single point in that list is true. Maybe not for every religious person but those are all common negative consequences of following a religion.

 

[Blackking]

How you figure?

Every single point in that list is true. Maybe not for every religious person but those are all common negative consequences of following a religion.

If you know a lot of religious people then you know it's not true...


HA, lol.. talking bout religious people don't have sex, walk about in a constant state of fear, never pop bottles, feel that life and the life of everyone we know including our children isn't important etc etc.

Damn, so if I go to a bar on Friday I won't be able to go up to a Christian white bish (i don't like white girls, but used the example because of my experience of them being easy) and fck her that night... wake up do it again on Saturday - go to work on Sat, because I'm trying to improve the quality of my life, then skip Church on Sunday because I don't feel like it and I can pray to "invisible sky daddy" at home???

So it's not true that some of the most adventurous people have been religious - and have lived life to the fullest? I guess all the important people in history that fought for civil and human rights didn't fight for those rights. According to Acri1 it was our imagination; because why would they? this life isn't important and neither are the lives of the generations that come after us.... the only thing that's important is some place that we know nothing of.

Nothing you said is even close to the truth except that some religious people go to a Mosque or Church--- it's not as painful as you would think.

If we wanted to keep it 100 however, atheist are the ones not living life. And NO it's not due to the horrible epidemic of atheist oppression. Its due to them on average being losers, more depressed, socially awkward and/or introverted, and Suffering from anxiety, and are 10% less happy with their lives. I'm just saying... maybe you can focus in that area when you want to make 6 points of generalizations.