Question for you atheists on here about what you believe?

[jadillac]

First off, this is NOT a thread to argue...I'm just asking a question or two.

Do you guys not believe there is a god as in the human-like god that is described in most religions? Or do you believe there is a god, but maybe it's(god) more of like a process in the universe? Or do you believe that nothing created everything essentially by accident? Or do you believe something else?

To me, I don't really believe in a god anymore the way it's been presented in religions. I believe God exists, but I think it (God) is more of an infinite plan, a purpose or principle that started life and exists in all of life. Not some outward external man-like deity in the sky who you ask to get you a new car....meanwhile 20 kids in 3rd world countries die of dehydration or starvation by the time I finish this post. How EASY would it be to let it rain on them to overflow the wells or streams or so they cant plant crops....but he's gonna help you get a new car. Or sitting idly by while 6 million Jews(supposedly his own people) were tortured and slaughtered in the Holocaust....that would've been easy to stop for a loving external god in the face of extreme unjustice....or why not prevent slavery from ever occuring and the millions who died have been affected as a result? But yet we're taught he's working for us individually, watching out for us everyday.

I also it's flawed to leave an eternal life decision to humans, the majority of whom can't even make a correct decision on the right person to marry or who to have kids with, or even the right job to take or house to buy.....but yet an eternal decision to avoid eternal punishment is to be made as early possible in life. Or to allow the billions of people in the world to be misled(by a devil or otherwise) into hell thru other religions or no religion at all....while depending on church people/Christians to do their job and save everyone

Personally, I dont see why anybody has to be labeled as anything in what they believe. All these labels are human created labels that carry connotations, positive or negative, which are always untrue. You should be able to exist in the world and have ur questions & doubts about stuff without having to fit in a box in or out of religion.

Guess I got away from my questions...but I needed to type that.

 

[MouseTeeth]

I just basically feel like the idea of God is something that could possibly exist. I don't know for sure because nobody ever died and was able to come back and say for certain if God/an afterlife exists. It's more like I HOPE God exists rather than just me sittin here being all about it like "the whole idea of God is impossible". However, I am vehemently opposed to organized religion of ALL kinds and it's chokehold on ppl's ability to reason about the big questions in life. So much so, that i won't identify as an atheist because to me, at some point an organization of atheists, or an atheist movement, is like a religion in itself as well- a religion of nonbelievers.

 

[OH SOHH TRILL]

Get money. fukk bytches. Love family.

That's what I believe. Everything else is just details.

 

[88m3]

nikkas die everyday b

 

[NoMayo15]

Do you guys not believe there is a god as in the human-like god that is described in most religions? Or do you believe there is a god, but maybe it's(god) more of like a process in the universe? Or do you believe that nothing created everything essentially by accident? Or do you believe something else?

I don't believe in an anthropomorphic version of god, but I'm more sympathetic to your naturalistic view of god. I think if a god exists, it's in the laws of physics and nature really. But ultimately we already have a name for those laws, and what humans usually mean by 'god' isn't really the same -- there's no need to call that 'god'. You seem to feel no need to use a term to describe your position on this topic, so why do you want to cling to the term 'god' when it's not what most people mean when they say it?

Also, I think the Big Bang theory is the best explanation for the origins of our universe.

All these labels are human created labels that carry connotations, positive or negative, which are always untrue.

I guess that's true but words are words, and a person is what they are, regardless of if they want that label attached to them or not. If a person believes in a god, they are a theist. If a person doesn't have a god belief, they are atheist. Not using one of these labels for yourself doesn't make you less of a (non-)believer.

 

[jadillac]

I just basically feel like the idea of God is something that could possibly exist. I don't know for sure because nobody ever died and was able to come back and say for certain if God/an afterlife exists. It's more like I HOPE God exists rather than just me sittin here being all about it like "the whole idea of God is impossible". However, I am vehemently opposed to organized religion of ALL kinds and it's chokehold on ppl's ability to reason about the big questions in life. So much so, that i won't identify as an atheist because to me, at some point an organization of atheists, or an atheist movement, is like a religion in itself as well- a religion of nonbelievers.

Good post.

I think it's better to let life be a mystery. Just live and be a good person and help others when/if you can. Rather than go thru it worryin/stressing about if the god you've been taught about is "testing" you when something bad happens or going to be there for you when you need something good to happen. You really give up your own power and confidence in yourself.

You have a brain and it does it's job by questioning and using logic as it should, but christian religion teaches that ur brain is carnal and an enemy against God, and that you should reject anything thats contrary the bible. Hence why some people, and formerly myself to an extent, will deny deny deny or make excuses in the face of facts or evidence. It's hard to undo that thinking.

Basically I dont think religion is for everyone.

I don't believe in an anthropomorphic version of god, but I'm more sympathetic to your naturalistic view of god. I think if a god exists, it's in the laws of physics and nature really. But ultimately we already have a name for those laws, and what humans usually mean by 'god' isn't really the same. You seem to feel no need to use a term to describe your position on this topic, so why do you want to cling to the term 'god' when it's not what most people mean when they say it?

Also, I think the Big Bang theory is the best explanation for the origins of our universe.

I guess that's true but words are words, and a person is what they are, regardless of if they want that label attached to them or not. If a person believes in a god, they are a theist. If a person doesn't have a god belief, they are atheist. Not using one of these labels for yourself doesn't make you less of a (non-)believer.

Reads easier I guess rather than just saying "it". LOL No other way to describe it from my religious background.

 

[you're NOT "n!ggas"]

i don't believe in a personal god anymore at all, somebody to pray to and shyt. heaven and hell, etc. i believe there's SOMETHING... i just couldn't say what that something is. i'm not arrogant enough to go that far, so i just leave it at that

 

[the cac mamba]

the 'human-like' part gives it away

i mean really :belip: he has all these human characteristics, huh. sounds suspiciously like a story that humans made up

 

[NoMayo15]

Reads easier I guess rather than just saying "it". LOL No other way to describe it from my religious background.

Fair enough.

 

[88m3]

the 'human-like' part gives it away

i mean really :belip: he has all these human characteristics, huh. sounds suspiciously like a story that humans made up

Well, what about dinosaurs?

 

[jadillac]

i don't believe in a personal god anymore at all, somebody to pray to and shyt. heaven and hell, etc. i believe there's SOMETHING... i just couldn't say what that something is. i'm not arrogant enough to go that far, so i just leave it at that

I wantd to hear ur opinion since I remember you mentioning you told ur fam you didnt really believe anymore. I still pray from time to time, but not to a god that I picture sitting on a throne in heaven with his arms folded. It's more like an inward prayer, meditation.

It's not arrogance bruh. One thing we need to realize is that whatever IT is, it's not pissed off at us. It's just love. You're free as a human in your mind to declare whatever you think, or don't think, God might be like........

.....hasn't religion done just that EXACT thing on a grand scale for thousands of years?

 

[Juno]

I'd say its questionable as to whether humanity should live their lives out of a mere belief at all........ ....

 

[NoMayo15]

It's not arrogance bruh. One thing we need to realize is that whatever IT is, it's not pissed off at us. It's just love. You're free as a human in your mind to declare whatever you think, or don't think, God might be like........

Sure, a person is free to think whatever they'd like, but if someone thinks they understand what that "something" is ... including thinking it has emotions like love or hate, then yeah I'd say that's arrogant. If there is something out there, why do you think it has any type of feelings towards you, or humanity in general?

 

[intilectual recipricol]

First off, this is NOT a thread to argue...I'm just asking a question or two.

Do you guys not believe there is a god as in the human-like god that is described in most religions? Or do you believe there is a god, but maybe it's(god) more of like a process in the universe? Or do you believe that nothing created everything essentially by accident? Or do you believe something else?

To me, I don't really believe in a god anymore the way it's been presented in religions. I believe God exists, but I think it (God) is more of an infinite plan, a purpose or principle that started life and exists in all of life. Not some outward external man-like deity in the sky who you ask to get you a new car....meanwhile 20 kids in 3rd world countries die of dehydration or starvation by the time I finish this post. How EASY would it be to let it rain on them to overflow the wells or streams or so they cant plant crops....but he's gonna help you get a new car. Or sitting idly by while 6 million Jews(supposedly his own people) were tortured and slaughtered in the Holocaust....that would've been easy to stop for a loving external god in the face of extreme unjustice....or why not prevent slavery from ever occuring and the millions who died have been affected as a result? But yet we're taught he's working for us individually, watching out for us everyday.

I also it's flawed to leave an eternal life decision to humans, the majority of whom can't even make a correct decision on the right person to marry or who to have kids with, or even the right job to take or house to buy.....but yet an eternal decision to avoid eternal punishment is to be made as early possible in life. Or to allow the billions of people in the world to be misled(by a devil or otherwise) into hell thru other religions or no religion at all....while depending on church people/Christians to do their job and save everyone

Personally, I dont see why anybody has to be labeled as anything in what they believe. All these labels are human created labels that carry connotations, positive or negative, which are always untrue. You should be able to exist in the world and have ur questions & doubts about stuff without having to fit in a box in or out of religion.

Guess I got away from my questions...but I needed to type that.

I dont believe in any form of a "god" as in supernatural or outside of time and space.

As for "creation" the question is always framed incorrectly. I believe that "stuff" was always here and that is the only option. Why? Because stuff is here. We have literally no example of nothing (nothing doesnt exist). The only thing that makes sense to me is that "stuff" has always been here and is the only option. Once you see that as the default setting, the "something from nothing" argument doesnt even make sense anymore.

powerful posting mayne +1 (if I wasnt in the red for goin to war with naS & biggie stans )

 

[you're NOT "n!ggas"]

I wantd to hear ur opinion since I remember you mentioning you told ur fam you didnt really believe anymore. I still pray from time to time, but not to a god that I picture sitting on a throne in heaven with his arms folded. It's more like an inward prayer, meditation.

It's not arrogance bruh. One thing we need to realize is that whatever IT is, it's not pissed off at us. It's just love. You're free as a human in your mind to declare whatever you think, or don't think, God might be like........

.....hasn't religion done just that EXACT thing on a grand scale for thousands of years?

i meditate, but not to reach out/gain insight from to something/someone, that's completely a self knowledge and awareness type of deal. i've come to view 'god' completely as an abstract. i honestly don't know wtf is going on, the possibilities are endless. it's just clear that it (if anything) is not the theistic view humans have conjured up. so the idea of it being something that's pissed off or loving us, even conscious to acknowledge or recognize us is a little too detailed for me. i think we're better off trying to understand the world and the universe around us and allowing THOSE answers to shed light on our origins than investing ourselves in baseless guessing games.