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Your point assumes that the momentum from the Big Bang is the only thing driving the expansion of the universe, which need not be the case, and most probably isn't.

Also, the current laws of physics aren't always applicable to the early or pre-universe, since their current existence is a product of the Big Bang itself.

you obviously didnt read his post thru and thru . he already addressed the bolded.

he said then what is causing it to expand. if it wasnt some explosion whats causing it to expand and actually SPEED UP vs slow down?

i'll play with it for both of you.

you have this dot right? explodes, expands and a rapid pace. but right at the point where it should be slowing down. it never slows down it actually starts to pickup speed. why is that? there's another dot on the other end my friends. its called a blackhole. yes, perhaps the two dots are connected

perhaps we are in a LOOP. so you go from one stream situation pushing you forward, then into a vacuum pulling you faster and faster until you go thru said hole to wash rinse and repeat.
 

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They calculated the size and effect of SOMETHING in the universe. They describe this something as dark matter. But that doesn't prove that dark matter exists or that they were actually observing it, or that dark matter is what they think it is.

For example I can observe a tree's leaves shaking and theorize that the wind is blowing, but in reality there could be plenty of reasons why that tree is shaking.

an earth quake perhaps..^^they dont want to play along with you. because if they do. they will have to agree that these people DONT KNOW.
 

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How is that dumb. religious people take some provable evidence about the universe then use an unknown unprovable entity to explain the rest and make it all fit. Scientist have even called dark matter the "God Particle" so are they making a dumb analogy too?



Black holes can be observed consuming matter we can't actually see the black hole but we can see matter being sucked into it. Other things in the universe that we observe by looking at it's effects are distant planets. We observe their effects on the gravity and light around them. We know these theories are true because there are some planets that we can see and observe directly so we know what the effects should be, so it's easy to project that onto a planet we can't see. Dark matter falls into neither of these categories.


That is the essence of science. Question Everything. If scientists just accepted the theories of those before them than we would never learn anything new. This is the argument that allot of scientists are making. Not that the Big Bang Theory is wrong. But the unwillingness of anybody to question it or fund research not in support of it is stagnating our knowledge on the situation and hurting the scientific process.

You guys need to open your eyes and start to think outside the box. Scientists are just regular people making observations. You could walk out your door tomorrow and make an observation that changes the world, but you will never see it if you keep a closed mind.
^DING DING DING. and the winner is...
 

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an earth quake perhaps..^^they dont want to play along with you. because if they do. they will have to agree that these people DONT KNOW.

I figured that much. They said i was just trying to argue, but all I did was challenge them to open their mind and actually THINK these things through instead of just repeating what they heard.
 

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relative to other objects :krs:

naw, you aint getting off that easy.

prove it. are you saying if i two twins are rolling down the 405 in two different cars. and one is going 100mph. while the other is going 65mph. the one going 100mph will actually age slower then the one going 65?

or is it because we're basing time and aging on destination. meaning which twin makes it to a destination first is therefore younger at said destination then the other twin that makes it there later.

you get it?
 

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I figured that much. They said i was just trying to argue, but all I did was challenge them to open their mind and actually THINK these things through instead of just repeating what they heard.

they dont realize a parrot is a parrot, christian or science lover.

some of us are both. my thing is this. if you're a parrot thats fine. admit it and stop acting like you're so open minded when you're really just as closed minded as the religious folks you clown. lets keep it 150 is alls i'm sayin.
 

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naw, you aint getting off that easy.

prove it. are you saying if i two twins are rolling down the 405 in two different cars. and one is going 100mph. while the other is going 65mph. the one going 100mph will actually age slower then the one going 65?

or is it because we're basing time and aging on destination. meaning which twin makes it to a destination first is therefore younger at said destination then the other twin that makes it there later.

you get it?
not biologically breh
 

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not biologically breh

read it again. are you sure about that?

if me and my twin bro are 50yrs old, 00 hours, 00 mins, and 00 seconds when we both take off down the 405 heading home to La La.

how old will I be at the destination point of los angeles, if i'm the one driving 100mph ?

how old will my twin brother be who's driving 65mph when he gets to los angeles after me?

I will be younger then my brother at said destination point.
 

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read it again. are you sure about that?

if me and my twin bro are 50yrs old, 00 hours, 00 mins, and 00 seconds when we both take off down the 405 heading home to La La.

how old will I be at the destination point of los angeles, if i'm the one driving 100mph ?

how old will my twin brother be who's driving 65mph when he gets to los angeles after me?

I will be younger then my brother at said destination point.
Read up, I'd rather not attempt to explain such a complicated thing to a simpleton

Time dilation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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