Put Some Hornacek On Our Game: 2016 New York Knicks Offseason Thread
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Youhadasparkwhenustarted
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It's gonna happen brehs, Conley for the max. Brace yourselves now, and be less disappointed later
Apparently Derrick Rose has been getting shopped heavily lately, and if the Bulls are content with just finding someone who can absorb salary, and a second rounder or two, I'd rather take a chance on Rose than sign Conley for a max. It's a bit more of a risk/reward thing with Rose(obviously), but he played well down the stretch last year and only has a year on his contract left. But like I said though, only for next to nothing would I do a trade for him.
Edit: realistically I assume they'd ask for Grant back at least.
storyteller
Veteran
Saw on twitter that Ognjen Kuzmic got a summer league invite and they posted a video of him working out for the Knicks. I don't really know dude, but he's a big dude and at least in work outs he was water all the way out to the three point line. He'd be a 26 year old, 7 footer that stretches the floor if the jumper translates to in-game but I can't speak for ball handle, awareness, defensive play or a myriad of variables into what would make him valuable. Regardless, I'd consider him a player to watch in summer league.
Miles Davis
Prince of Darkness
See, I'd be wary with this. Your giving up grant, a younger player who still has much growth, for rose whose had 2 acl(?) injuries and on the decline just for some picks. I don't see Phil making this type of move.
storyteller
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Rondo: Kings 'too many distractions on and off the court'
Well if we're going win-now (which I think we are even though I prefer a slower build)...the case for Rondo is now interesting
That's an average of 12.5 mil per year in the new cap increase era. Just as a measure, consider that Conley is likely to make the max which would start at roughly 25 million in the first year even though he's coming back from an achilles injury. Knowing the cap situation, I've been under the assumption that no starting caliber PG could be had at the average being suggested here (12.5 per). I honestly don't want Rondo for any 4 year contract; but if you're telling me that we're gonna push now then Rondo at 12.5 is an easier pill to swallow than Conley at 25. I like Rondo's competitive edge and he respects Melo which should help keep him in check somewhat (along with Phil being a great player manager).
Do I love it? Nah. I'm still all-in on getting an SG and finding a stop gap PG. But if the "playoffs now" commentary is legit, the best course to appease everyone might be to try and frontload money on a contract to Rondo.
P.S.
Well if we're going win-now (which I think we are even though I prefer a slower build)...the case for Rondo is now interesting
That's an average of 12.5 mil per year in the new cap increase era. Just as a measure, consider that Conley is likely to make the max which would start at roughly 25 million in the first year even though he's coming back from an achilles injury. Knowing the cap situation, I've been under the assumption that no starting caliber PG could be had at the average being suggested here (12.5 per). I honestly don't want Rondo for any 4 year contract; but if you're telling me that we're gonna push now then Rondo at 12.5 is an easier pill to swallow than Conley at 25. I like Rondo's competitive edge and he respects Melo which should help keep him in check somewhat (along with Phil being a great player manager).
Do I love it? Nah. I'm still all-in on getting an SG and finding a stop gap PG. But if the "playoffs now" commentary is legit, the best course to appease everyone might be to try and frontload money on a contract to Rondo.
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Illuminatos
#OVOXO
I'll gladly take a one year rental on a washed up Rose. 
Conley for the max? No fukking thanks.
Conley for the max? No fukking thanks.
Rose, for a one year flash, would be tempting...but to give up on Grant as a sacrifice? 
nah, too reminiscent of Knicks management from 2002- pre Phil.
nah, too reminiscent of Knicks management from 2002- pre Phil.
Carter G. Hoodson
Tarik is my name ✊✊✊
Wow, that's not a bad contract 4yrs, $50 million...I'll sign up for it but I hate to say it. Derrick does look appealing if we could flip Calderon for him.
nomoreneveragain
Superstar
Why would you have to give up Grant to get Rose?
Bulls would give Rose for free if they could. Rose has 2 years left unless he has an opt out
Bulls would give Rose for free if they could. Rose has 2 years left unless he has an opt out
Does it really blow your mind, breh?
Most people aren't savvy GMs, breh. They love the team, like a fan, and they believe they'll win every year.
Don't think too much about it. Let them have their fun and you concentrate on the convos that you believe are on your level.
You are cool people but when a person buys a lottery ticket...knowing that the odds are worse than getting struck by lightning but they get flush in the face and talk about how they are going to this with their money... and that with their money...
Don't come through and be on some grumpy shyt, sipping a latter like...
"You know, you're ridiculous for thinking you have a chance, right?"
We all trying to live and enjoy the game of basketball, breh. The GM shyt is secondary.
Youhadasparkwhenustarted
Superstar
If it was up to me I'd go for younger players in F.A., make Grant the starting pg, try to trade Melo and try to tank for a pick; but since it isn't it up to me I'm trying to frame my ideas based on the direction I'm assuming the Knicks front office will take this offseason. They may not be ideal solutions, I'm just trying to make the most of things I suppose.