Put Some Hornacek On Our Game: 2016 New York Knicks Offseason Thread

[Liquid]

You're wasting your time, these dudes just ain't trying to hear it, next season they have a draft pick in a stacked draft loaded with elite wing talent and these dudes STILL want to hold onto Melo rather than get a legitimate young player to pair with Porzingis.

It's like they don't see the East and the ass whooping the Cavs are handing out to anyone in the conference who gets in their way, like Mike Conley + Melo + KP would have a chance against that

I still think they have a shot at a deal with Boston, but watch the fans on here act like we gave up the franchise for picks. Didn't someone point out that the Nuggets have actually had a better record than the Knicks since the trade? In a tougher conference?

This is too easy. With all that said though I am happy we got Hornacek as long as Dolan lets him stick around for a few years. I personally thought Blatt would get the job.

 

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

Knick fans comparing Ewing to Melo Ewing guaranteed you 50-60. Wins and contention for a decade the Fukk has Melo done?

 

[DirtyD]

I seriously don't understand this love affair some of you have with Melo, he's clearly on the decline and if it's possible to get a decent to good haul for him while preparing for the future then there is no question that it should be done.

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Knick fans comparing Ewing to Melo Ewing guaranteed you 50-60. Wins and contention for a decade the Fukk has Melo done?

While I disagree about guaranteed wins, this is mostly true Ewing's accomplishments in New York are so much greater than Carmelo's that they don't even belong in the same sentence.

 

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

You're wasting your time, these dudes just ain't trying to hear it, next season they have a draft pick in a stacked draft loaded with elite wing talent and these dudes STILL want to hold onto Melo rather than get a legitimate young player to pair with Porzingis.

It's like they don't see the East and the ass whooping the Cavs are handing out to anyone in the conference who gets in their way, like Mike Conley + Melo + KP would have a chance against that

Seriously I think some of these dudes are so delusional they think their close to contending..

The love Knick fans in here have for Melo is bizarre. They treat him like he's Jeter and won 5 titles for the franchise and under no circumstances should he be traded..

Even if your a staunch Melo fan The timeline for the Knicks and Melo don't match..Melo will be long gone by the time Kp hits near his prime and the teams easy to contend so why not try to get assets for him while you can rather then try as quickly as possible to be an 8th seed just to placate Melo

 

[Liquid]

I seriously don't understand this love affair some of you have with Melo, he's clearly on the decline and if it's possible to get a decent to good haul for him while preparing for the future then there is no question that it should be done.

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While I disagree about guaranteed wins, this is mostly true Ewing's accomplishments in New York are so much greater than Carmelo's that they don't even belong in the same sentence.

I don't think I have ever seen anyone bring up Carmelo and compare him to Ewing on the Knicks.

Ewing didn't deliver the championship, but MAN . His impact alone would have the Knicks in the playoffs in the east.

They aren't even in the same stratosphere in terms of accomplishments for the franchise.

Even T-Mac took that shot to Carmelo...I thought that would have been the nail in the coffin for the last few delusional fans out there:

 

[The War Report]

I don't know how you could watch Melo play and not feel the malaise of emanating from him.

 

[Malta]

I still think they have a shot at a deal with Boston, but watch the fans on here act like we gave up the franchise for picks. Didn't someone point out that the Nuggets have actually had a better record than the Knicks since the trade? In a tougher conference?
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That was me, and in the last 4 full seasons the Nuggets are 156-172 while the Knicks are 140-188

Seriously I think some of these dudes are so delusional they think their close to contending..

The love Knick fans in here have for Melo is bizarre. They treat him like he's Jeter and won 5 titles for the franchise and under no circumstances should he be traded..

Even if your a staunch Melo fan The timeline for the Knicks and Melo don't match..Melo will be long gone by the time Kp hits near his prime and the teams easy to contend so why not try to get assets for him while you can rather then try as quickly as possible to be an 8th seed just to placate Melo

I really don't get it, it's beyond strange to me at this point, dudes will put you on ignore if you talk about the Knicks trading Melo. You'd think he was LeBron or some shyt.

 

[Malta]

Knick fans comparing Ewing to Melo Ewing guaranteed you 50-60. Wins and contention for a decade the Fukk has Melo done?

Bruh, these dudes weren't even willing to trade Melo to the Celtics for some of the Nets picks Like having him long term is better than having Dunn & Jackson / Tatum.

They always default to Melo's NTC, like he wouldn't waive that shyt to be in Miami or LA.

 

[Derek Lee]

1) You highly overrating Paul George.

PG carried that subpar Indy team to seven games against a vastly superior Toronto team and was arguably the best player in the first round of the playoffs. Besides PG, Hill, Turner and maybe Mahinmi were the only average to above players on that roster. What the hell are you talking about with that overrating nonsense especially when you're stanning someone like Melo???

 

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

Bruh, these dudes weren't even willing to trade Melo to the Celtics for some of the Nets picks Like having him long term is better than having Dunn & Jackson / Tatum.

They always default to Melo's NTC, like he wouldn't waive that shyt to be in Miami or LA.

There why Dolan has been able to operate like he has...they just want to compete for a playoff spot every year no long term thinking at all..

people mock the sixers for having 3 awful seasons even though their loaded with young players and picks meanwhile the Knicks have been awful for 15 years outside of 2012 and the fans are happy with them "trying"to contend for a playoff spot every year

 

[23Barrettcity]

That development angle is a whole bunch of bullshyt to me for a couple of reasons.

First of all, Carmelo is not LeBron James or a distributing point guard who can vastly help KP on his own. I am sure @Malta and I have posted about this on here. The fact that you guys keep using Carmelo as this piece that is going to help KP turn into an All-Star caliber player is complete nonsense. Melo is a player who thrives in isolation...he isn't the guy to be on a rebuilding project.

I would also argue that the pressure is something that KP should face from the very start to adjust quicker to the inevitable.

Melo isn't a point guard and bron didn't develop all these young players like your making it out to be . He is helping by takin some of the pressure off KP and he has had experience with leading winning (regular season teams ) . The roster is flawed but trading melo for pennies on the dollar isn't the answer to me . Now if we strike out on improving at all and KP takes some quantum leap where he's unstoppable then maybe . KP is always going to need help like every other nba player in the league just trading melo instead of using him to help shoulder the load is a bad idea. Let's see how things play out this season

 

[seemorecizzy]

Bruh, these dudes weren't even willing to trade Melo to the Celtics for some of the Nets picks Like having him long term is better than having Dunn & Jackson / Tatum.

They always default to Melo's NTC, like he wouldn't waive that shyt to be in Miami or LA.

u think kyle lowry is better than jason kidd
your opinion on basketball is pretty much void forever

 

[Malta]

u think kyle lowry is better than jason kidd
your opinion on basketball is pretty much void forever

Kyle Lowry is in the playoffs for the 3rd year in a row, where's Melo?

 

[seemorecizzy]

That development angle is a whole bunch of bullshyt to me for a couple of reasons.

First of all, Carmelo is not LeBron James or a distributing point guard who can vastly help KP on his own. I am sure @Malta and I have posted about this on here. The fact that you guys keep using Carmelo as this piece that is going to help KP turn into an All-Star caliber player is complete nonsense. Melo is a player who thrives in isolation...he isn't the guy to be on a rebuilding project.

I would also argue that the pressure is something that KP should face from the very start to adjust quicker to the inevitable.

so again
kp, the one actually playing and the one that knows melo personally, is lying and wrong
and you, some coli poster who doesnt know either of them and never played professional basketball in your life, is right
got cha

 

[5star]

u think kyle lowry is better than jason kidd
your opinion on basketball is pretty much void forever