Put Some Hornacek On Our Game: 2016 New York Knicks Offseason Thread

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I just have a bad feeling this Phil is using this job to try to somehow prove that his system the triangle is more important then the players which we know is bs

The triangle worked because of Jordan Pippen Shaq and Kobe

Which is why, (I hate even suggesting and saying it) I wouldn't be mad if he comes to Dolan with Rambis or Brian Shaw or any of his triangle flunkies and Dolan goes
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cause there's no way I'm paying u 60 milly and THIS is what you think is gonna turn my franchise around.
 

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I just have a bad feeling this Phil is using this job to try to somehow prove that his system the triangle is more important then the players which we know is bs

The triangle worked because of Jordan Pippen Shaq and Kobe
My glimpse of hope for Thibs is that @storyteller showed that he uses a form of the triangle and it might be enough to draw his attention to Phil. At this point if we don't get Thibs I'm gonna be upset as he has the proven track record along with seeing Chicago fall hard the season after he left.
 

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Thibs or Luke, and I'm still a little iffy on Luke as the Warriors were already on the up when he and Kerr got there.

At this point I feel it depends on Melo's moves this summer. :yeshrug:

If Melo stays (which I think is damn near guaranteed at this point.......:francis:) its probably going to be thibs. :patrice:

I don't see Melo leaving after the statements he and KP, (and even Phil) made in the last few weeks. The Bulls not making the playoffs post Thibs and the bullshyt the knicks went through with a new coach who wasn't ready in Fisher damn near got Thibs looking like gold right now. If anything I could see Phil telling Thibs to run the triangle on offense with help from rambis and Cleamons to institute it and then leave him to do all the HC stuff both Rambis and Fisher failed at like rotations, timeouts, motivation, and defense. Thibs went around the league "interning" for other coaches to see their offense. Phil has to respect the fact that man is willing to learn, and clearly loves NY as much as he does. If Melo, and KP are both here Knicks need to start winning to try and get a star PG in 2017 and make at least 1 or 2 real runs at it before Melo is done.

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If Melo leaves I think Phil would take that risk, Max H Barnes (Barnes as a Max is damn near insane but it would make some sense in this situation) and bring over Walton to start that youth movement. The only real draw of Walton imo is If the knicks get Walton its to basically go young, and for him to be what Fisher should of been if Fisher didn't get caught up in p*ssy and fukkery. A young coach to groom into being a better coach. The only reason to do that is because the knicks move Melo, and go young so Walton would have a chance to manage a young squad like he managed the warriors and learn on the job.
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Rambis aint keeping the HC job and Shaw is a distant 3rd. I actually think Blatt has a chance at it better at third than anyone else. However Phil has been great so far at not doing Stupid shyt for the sake of doing stupid shyt (aka keeping Dolan away). I really think the job is Thibs to lose.
 
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Where's this Barnes talk coming from?

Nowhere. The whole warriors stuff was random musings. I am pretty sure Walton ain't coming and Melo ain't leaving though but if both of those happened Barnes would have added value as somebody who played for the Warriors with Walton and could come the and play the SF replacing Melo if Melo left.

Honestly I think the best/realistic plan is go after Thibs, some SG with Handle, pray Wroten, Jose, and Grant can hold down the point and try to impress a star level PG in 2017.
 
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Harrison Barnes is strictly on my do not want list since he's never been asked to be anything more than a 3 and D guy in his career. Maxing him is high risk, high reward.

Not gonna get too bothered by the Berman piece that all but dismisses Thibs because it banks on one variable, which is Paxson. I'll wait to see if there's an interview and move from there because unless Rosen is writing it; nobody has gotten close to what Phil was actually thinking or going to do. JR Smith was untradeable, Felton was untradeable, Fisher was on the hot seat but not for a midseason firing, Lee had to speak on the Knicks inquiry his damned self months later...the organization has been pretty economic about leaks and a lot of the "sources say" reports have been flat out called lies by the players or disproven by in house behavior. I wouldn't put it past Phil to go triangle only and ignore Thibs or Blatt...but I also wouldn't put a Berman nameless sources article on a pedestal.
 

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Let's be real
At this point, it looks like Phil just took the job so he could give all his buddies pay days
We weren't winning these last 2 years regardless.

Atleast we've cleaned up our cap situation and have a franchise rookie.

I'm as happy as I can be, honestly. Icing in the cake would be if we have this year's pick and Melo's future being predictable.

I'm looking forward to the next 5 years...
 
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