Put Some Hornacek On Our Game: 2016 New York Knicks Offseason Thread

[Mr. Jack Napier]

Real talk the more I think about the more I hope this summer Melo waived that NTC and we pull that Boston/Cleveland/NY deal and take back pics and expirings. Then go hard after some youth with upside like Barnes or Bazemore.

All that would be a lot better than paying Conley 25 mil or paying a lesser SG/PG combo and praying for Westbrook in 2017.

Kent f*cking Bazemore, and Harrison Barnes

 

[ogc163]

Real talk the more I think about the more I hope this summer Melo waived that NTC and we pull that Boston/Cleveland/NY deal and take back pics and expirings. Then go hard after some youth with upside like Barnes or Bazemore.

All that would be a lot better than paying Conley 25 mil or paying a lesser SG/PG combo and praying for Westbrook in 2017.

The only upside of all this losing is that Melo might get fed up and want to leave, and him leaving will be the best thing for this organization.

 

[DPresidential]

Melo doesn't deserve this shyt.

Dude put the fukking team on his back and literally played till his body broke.

He needs to demand a trade in the offseason.

Give us a few pieces and he goes to the Clips/La/Chi/ wherever.

2 years from now, the only people on the team from this season will be Porzingis and Galloway.

Still hoping for Grant to develop.

 

[KnickstapeCity]

 

[storyteller]

Kent f*cking Bazemore, and Harrison Barnes

KP, Bazemore, Barnes and at least 1 lottery pick in 2017 (hopefully a second from the Melo deal) actually wouldn't be the worst situation...but we'd have another 5 years to contender status though

 

[RickyGQ]

Dame and CJ in Portland is what we all thought Steph and Franchise was supposed to be...

 

[Rev]

just noticed they forgot the 07-08 season, and i believe that was chris duhon for a couple years anyway.

and where's penny hardaway?

 

[KnickstapeCity]

@Rev I had to look up the video that the gif is from and that shyt is pure unadulterated comedy. :philjacksonlol:

So he's on some type of couples therapy bullshyt TV show on VH1, talking to a psychiatrist or some shyt.:philjacksonlol:

The Dog is crying because his mom never told him that she loved him. :philjacksonlol:
What makes it even funnier is 3 seconds after, he gets up like nothing happened and goes "I ain't no sucka " :philjacksonlol:





I needed that today.:philjacksonlol:

 

[Liquid]

One of the biggest mistakes the Knicks did was not extend Jeremy Lin when they had the chance and let him test the market. Any smart organization would have extended Lin immediately for peanuts compared to what he would have gotten in the open market. He got a ridiculous offer from Houston and don't blame him for taking it.

Yet again this franchise continues to make mistake after mistake. I wish Phil Jackson and everyone higher up will just be straight with Carmelo and tell him that this is going to be a several year project. If he wants to win now he should start considering his options and drop the NTC.

 

[Liquid]

We let this opportunity slip for Raymond Felton



I don't want to keep bringing up old wounds, but JESUS wtf was this organization THINKING

 

[I.V.]

I agree. If you factor money and chemistry, Robin has way more value to a team than Boogie.

No. No no no.

This is reality. My guess is we buy out Melo's contract after the 2017-18 year.

Not really sure what that accomplishes, so I don't see it happening.

I think Melo's closer to waiving the NTC and I'm expecting more offers to materialize in the offseason. Rooting for a bidding war here. Bazemore would be a great pick up! Barnes, I like, but think he'll get overpaid. If we dump Melo and hard reset; 2 of Bazemore, Fournier and Crabbe would be nice along with a stop gap one year PG since this PG class is pretty weak outside of Conley, Rondo...Jennings cheap would be the only multi-year guy to me.

I like Bazemore, but he's hit a real slump of late. Hoping he can pull through, and get back to how he was playing for the first two months of the season.

Melo doesn't deserve this shyt.

Dude put the fukking team on his back and literally played till his body broke.

He needs to demand a trade in the offseason.

Here's the problem... him demanding a trade and forcing his way out of Denver and into New York is what set the team on this course in the first place. Basically gutting the knick roster of depth in order to get to New York. Then he got here, and the team didn't have complimentary players or picks... well, yeah, we traded them for you.

So I'm not gonna cry for melo. I would like to see him surrounded by better players and a better team... but the Knicks sold out for win-now(ish) veterans like Melo/Amar'e and Tyson (and fukking Bargnani) -- and now they're dealing with the fact that those guys had shytty returns. Phil also sold WAY low on Tyson, who didn't fetch half the price Mozgov got three months later.

Short-sighted decisions got us here.


I tried to explain to everyone before last season, and again before this season, and again DURING this season -- the Knicks just aren't that talented. They had no depth and a shytty coach. It's a multi-year rebuilding process, that only truly started this passed summer, when we were able to use our well-earned lottery pick.

This summer we will have some space and some flexibility to try to make some more large or small improvements, which is what we did last summer. Small upgrades in personnel, good deals for better players. Last year the Knicks won 17 games. This year they're on pace to win 30-34. That's improvement. We still are not any good, but it's improvement.

The big offseason moves need to be
1) Find a fukking coach that can fukking coach. You see the difference Brad Stevens makes on a shytTY Boston roster.
2) Upgrade the guard positions. Even if it's not a super-deal for Conley (which it should not be) just getting more competent players to put KP and Melo in easier position to score.

There are some very interesting late 1st, early 2nd round players you could purchase a pick and acquire. Cornelie or Jeanne, LeVert or Monte Morris, Payton II if you believe he'll develop offensive feel, Grayson Allen if you believe in grayson allen.

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

KP, Bazemore, Barnes and at least 1 lottery pick in 2017 (hopefully a second from the Melo deal) actually wouldn't be the worst situation...but we'd have another 5 years to contender status though

All those cats play basically the same position, and KP has the highest ceiling out of those 3 by far.

One of the biggest mistakes the Knicks did was not extend Jeremy Lin when they had the chance and let him test the market. Any smart organization would have extended Lin immediately for peanuts compared to what he would have gotten in the open market. He got a ridiculous offer from Houston and don't blame him for taking it.

Yet again this franchise continues to make mistake after mistake. I wish Phil Jackson and everyone higher up will just be straight with Carmelo and tell him that this is going to be a several year project. If he wants to win now he should start considering his options and drop the NTC.

The same bum ass Jeremy Lin that has become a backup journey man
We would be in a worse position if we had Lin's contract.

 

[thatrapsfan]

One of the biggest mistakes the Knicks did was not extend Jeremy Lin when they had the chance and let him test the market. Any smart organization would have extended Lin immediately for peanuts compared to what he would have gotten in the open market. He got a ridiculous offer from Houston and don't blame him for taking it.

Yet again this franchise continues to make mistake after mistake. I wish Phil Jackson and everyone higher up will just be straight with Carmelo and tell him that this is going to be a several year project. If he wants to win now he should start considering his options and drop the NTC.

Jeremy's a solid backup who's a below-average defender. How does this resolve our PG problems?

 

[seemorecizzy]

We let this opportunity slip for Raymond Felton



I don't want to keep bringing up old wounds, but JESUS wtf was this organization THINKING

knick fans overeact to everything. i overeacted with lin too but once ppl started talking about trading melo and building around him i couldn't fukking believe it
some are/were trying to pull the same thing with porzingis. WE have NO idea how good he is gonna be. for some reason, so many knick fans are against having more than one exceptional player on a team

Real talk the more I think about the more I hope this summer Melo waived that NTC and we pull that Boston/Cleveland/NY deal and take back pics and expirings. Then go hard after some youth with upside like Barnes or Bazemore.

All that would be a lot better than paying Conley 25 mil or paying a lesser SG/PG combo and praying for Westbrook in 2017.

i swear some of yall have no interest in winning a championship

 

[BoogieDown23]

yall ready brehs?