Put Some Hornacek On Our Game: 2016 New York Knicks Offseason Thread

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There are a number of people who deserve acclaim for the Knicks’ turnaround this season, from the worst team in franchise history last year to a fringe playoff contender.

At age 31, Carmelo Anthony is playing perhaps the best basketball of his career. Talented rookie Kristaps Porzingis has turned into a legitimate contributor quicker than anyone expected. And Phil Jackson and his front-office staff have put together a roster that, at 19-20, should continue to trend upwards over the next couple of years.

But beyond the obvious candidates, there’s another individual who has emerged as a key factor behind the team’s improvement and its current run of five wins in the last seven games: second-year coachDerek Fisher.

Since the start of the new year, Fisher has made a couple of dramatic shifts in his approach to game management. Whereas Fisher once favored a rotation involving 12 or 13 players, he’s used just nine or 10 in games this month. And he’s struck a balance by staggering his lineups to avoid scoring droughts.

Knicks Coach Is No Longer a Fish Out of Water

^ pretty good article that goes over the growth of Fisher as a coach:ehh:
 

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A few random observations:

-KP is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

-I'm surprised at how well Melo is facilitating and passing right now. I can't think of any other player who turned into a good passer this late in their career. He's legit dropping dimes.

-I am so glad Knicks have RoLo and not Tyson Chandler's b*tch ass. A well-rounded center like RoLo makes you realize just how much the Knicks missed at that position.

-Lance has earned his respect and his minutes.

-Shoutout to D. Fish for righting the ship. Defense and rotations are much improved. I still think Gallow should be playing 30+ minutes but it's cool cause some of those minutes are going to Grant, and at least it's not Sasha's b*tch ass :russ:
 

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The future of the Knicks is truly predicated on the ability of the team to turn the garden into an intimidating place where we truly have home games.

Randoms come into the garden and drop careers numbers

:russ: Yo I was just talking about this today randomly... When Fredette came to the Garden and gave us like 30 and the L
 

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Damn what happened to @I.V. havent seen him post in a while. Hope zema didn't run him off :beli:


I've taken a step back from this site, specifically because of some of the homophobic and really hateful shyt I've seen posted on here over the last year.

You can catch me on twitter, I'll still be around this thread, certainly... and as always, down for some sort of knickfan meetup game/bar to watch a game.


But to be honest, there is a lot of this site - especially since the mods have pretty much taken the padlock off the gates - that I don't want to be associated with.






I wonder whatever happened to those trade Melo posts :sas2:


Nobody is happier than me with the way Melo has been playing of late, because this is the way we have always believed he could play. I can't tell you how awesome it is to watch him spread the ball around, direct traffic on offense, in order to get teammates in position to create other baskets, and to come to the defense of porzingis. Melo and I were the same high school class, I played with him at ABCD (back when that was a thing) -- I am loving every minute of this season.

And even still -- Even with all that said, I still understand that they probably should trade him, if they can secure quality picks and/or a young great player to surround Porzingis with. I'll understand if they don't. This is all coming together faster than anybody anticipated... and they're STILL only a fringe playoff hopeful. If he can stay this healthy, and play this way for the next four years... then obviously I am happy to keep him on the team. Even if he diminishes but his game and playing style age gracefully... I'm still happy... but you have to step back to 10-thousand feet and look at what's best for the franchise for the next decade.

I am hopeful (but maybe not optimistic) that his great play this season, and Kristaps coming-out as a star will help draw a bigtime free agent, or a bunch of really good ones (more optimistic for this).

The cap space and the raised cap are huge benefits, but he's making 28 million in 2018/2019.
 
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I've taken a step back from this site, specifically because of some of the homophobic and really hateful shyt I've seen posted on here over the last year.

You can catch me on twitter, I'll still be around this thread, certainly... and as always, down for some sort of knickfan meetup game/bar to watch a game.


But to be honest, there is a lot of this site - especially since the mods have pretty much taken the padlock off the gates - that I don't want to be associated with.









Nobody is happier than me with the way Melo has been playing of late, because this is the way we have always believed he could play. I can't tell you how awesome it is to watch him spread the ball around, direct traffic on offense, in order to get teammates in position to create other baskets, and to come to the defense of porzingis. Melo and I were the same high school class, I played with him at ABCD (back when that was a thing) -- I am loving every minute of this season.

And even still -- Even with all that said, I still understand that they probably should trade him, if they can secure quality picks and/or a young great player to surround Porzingis with. I'll understand if they don't. This is all coming together faster than anybody anticipated... and they're STILL only a fringe playoff hopeful. If he can stay this healthy, and play this way for the next four years... then obviously I am happy to keep him on the team. Even if he diminishes but his game and playing style age gracefully... I'm still happy... but you have to step back to 10-thousand feet and look at what's best for the franchise for the next decade.

I am hopeful (but maybe not optimistic) that his great play this season, and Kristaps coming-out as a star will help draw a bigtime free agent, or a bunch of really good ones (more optimistic for this).

The cap space and the raised cap are huge benefits, but he's making 28 million in 2018/2019.
Honestly, I feel you and I can't blame you. Some eye popping shyt gets posted on here sometimes. Even though I'm down for occasional fukkery, it's a bit much, and I myself don't post as much outside of the Knicks thread because of it.

Speaking of free agency, in your opinion, who are some low key free agents to look out for in the offseason? To me it don't seem like there are too many hidden gems out there this year.
 

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I've taken a step back from this site, specifically because of some of the homophobic and really hateful shyt I've seen posted on here over the last year.

You can catch me on twitter, I'll still be around this thread, certainly... and as always, down for some sort of knickfan meetup game/bar to watch a game.


But to be honest, there is a lot of this site - especially since the mods have pretty much taken the padlock off the gates - that I don't want to be associated with.









Nobody is happier than me with the way Melo has been playing of late, because this is the way we have always believed he could play. I can't tell you how awesome it is to watch him spread the ball around, direct traffic on offense, in order to get teammates in position to create other baskets, and to come to the defense of porzingis. Melo and I were the same high school class, I played with him at ABCD (back when that was a thing) -- I am loving every minute of this season.

And even still -- Even with all that said, I still understand that they probably should trade him, if they can secure quality picks and/or a young great player to surround Porzingis with. I'll understand if they don't. This is all coming together faster than anybody anticipated... and they're STILL only a fringe playoff hopeful. If he can stay this healthy, and play this way for the next four years... then obviously I am happy to keep him on the team. Even if he diminishes but his game and playing style age gracefully... I'm still happy... but you have to step back to 10-thousand feet and look at what's best for the franchise for the next decade.

I am hopeful (but maybe not optimistic) that his great play this season, and Kristaps coming-out as a star will help draw a bigtime free agent, or a bunch of really good ones (more optimistic for this).

The cap space and the raised cap are huge benefits, but he's making 28 million in 2018/2019.
Damn breh sorry to hear that. What's your Twitter?
 

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Honestly, I feel you and I can't blame you. Some eye popping shyt gets posted on here sometimes. Even though I'm down for occasional fukkery, it's a bit much, and I myself don't post as much outside of the Knicks thread because of it.

Speaking of free agency, in your opinion, who are some low key free agents to look out for in the offseason? To me it don't seem like there are too many hidden gems out there this year.


You know, NBA free agency is tough because it is kind of impossible to predict right now... right off the bat I'd give Erick Green in the NBDL a shot right now, though. He's not a defender, but he is a guard that can handle pressure, finish around the hoop, and shoot from distance. He can create off the bounce, which some of our guards can not at all. He's played well in the NBA already, and is a young guy.

Xavier Munford, for a lot of the same reasons... I think deserves a look. Does a lot of things well on offense.

As far as lower-key FA's... I think Houston's Terrence Jones (assuming he's healthy) and Montiejunas (same rule) are both interesting candidates. Donatas has a TON of post moves, and offers a post scoring threat when Melo's on the bench, Jones, when healthy, is a rangy defender, that can guard 3+ positions, and shoots the ball well from the outside.

I also really like Kent Bazemore, and the way he's played this season, though I wonder if he's playing himself OUT of the range I'd want to pay him.

If they decided they wanted to offer a big deal to somebody, Nic Batum could offer a LOT of interesting flexibility, and create a really tough defensive team. The only problem is a 4-5 year deal for him means you own him into his early 30's... But he's being asked to shoot and do more, and it hasn't cratered his efficiency.

I don't think we have a shot at LeBron/Durant/Whiteside, so I didn't bother with them.

I'll have more thoughts as we go... I have to take a look at the international market, and who'll be without a deal.
 
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