Put Some Hornacek On Our Game: 2016 New York Knicks Offseason Thread

[Knicksman20]

I swear Herring is my dude. I just make observations but he always gives stats and additional points that I feel fit right in there. This is worth a full read, but click the link and support the dude guys.

Knicks’ Future With Porzingis, Grant Coming Into Focus

I was just about to post this article.

 

[Knicksman20]

I've been telling you guys about Melo's play & have been doubted by a particular poster in here. Now some in the media are taking notice finally:

"Always an impressive scorer, Anthony dropped 25 points on 9-of-12 shooting against his good friend Dwyane Wade and the rest of the Heat. But he also showcased his distributing skills, dropping four assists as he looked to get everyone involved.



"As Jared Dubin wrote for Bleacher Report at the end of 2015, "Anthony is obviously the Knicks' best scorer, but he is also probably their most effective passer at this point—Jerian Grant can't get on the floor because teams don't respect his jump shot, and Jose Calderon can't draw multiple defenders toward his dribble because he's not a threat to drive."

Heading into this latest contest, Anthony had assisted 20.2 percent of the Knicks' makes when he was on the floor, giving him his highest assist percentage since the 2011-12 season by a rather significant margin. And that says nothing of the unselfish plays and moments of leadership that don't necessarily lead to dimes."


Phil Jackson's Process Paying off for Knicks

 

[RickyGQ]

So when is everyone (else) gonna start giving Phil his props. In one off season dude put together a roster filled with value guys that each fit a role and have great chemistry...

 

[KingJudah2]

Melo way better of a leader than Lebraud. Lebron dry snitching to media and shytting on teammates with quotes Melo never shows up his teammates to the public

 

[JerseyFinest!]

So when is everyone (else) gonna start giving Phil his props. In one off season dude put together a roster filled with value guys that each fit a role and have great chemistry...

You know that's not happening...You Know How some of these dudes operate on here. Knicks are still growing so I can see us going through another tough stretch...they'll be back then..

 

[NoMorePie]

Almost 1000pages

 

[Ironman]

I swear Herring is my dude. I just make observations but he always gives stats and additional points that I feel fit right in there. This is worth a full read, but click the link and support the dude guys.

Knicks’ Future With Porzingis, Grant Coming Into Focus

We've been saying this for months to put Ghost P. with the second unit when Melo is on the bench and let him be the focal point on offense.

 

[RickyGQ]

My pops was in the hospital all week with some kidney trouble but he came home yesterday with healthy kidneys and a great knicks win. He hasn't smiled all week until we were watching the game his first night home since New Years. Knicks looking real good.

Glad he's good breh

 

[Victim of Racism]

KP said: "Sometimes those little guards can strip the ball when I'm driving, so I gotta be careful with that". at "those little guards". #Ethered Man, I love him so much.

 

[Victim of Racism]

My pops was in the hospital all week with some kidney trouble but he came home yesterday with healthy kidneys and a great knicks win. He hasn't smiled all week until we were watching the game his first night home since New Years. Knicks looking real good.

Don't be letting your sick family members watch Knicks games. You tryna give them a heart attack?

 

[onelastdeath]

Almost 1000pages

GOAT CITY GOAT FANBASE

 

[Victim of Racism]

lol true

On 2nd thought, Rolo is a Trinagle fit. Whiteside is a good defender, shot-blocker, and rebounder, but I'm not so sure he can help NY like Rolo can, just because of the system they run. NY has defenders. Rolo can score consistently, pass, and hit free throws. I'm not sure Whiteside can do any of those things. Not sure NY should sacrifice all that for more rebounds (especially when Rolo more than makes up for it with his box outs) and 3 more blocks. Triangle fits are more rare. NY needs scoring more than anything — particularly those who won't compromise the defense like Batum. I think you're on to something.

 

[Victim of Racism]

I didn't realize how much I was punching in on this one...skip to the guys you care about, I'm just gassed off these wins. It feels like we've turned a corner just in time for a really tough stretch and I'm HYPE.

Short Version: Full discretion, I wound up having to rush out with around 5 mins left in this game. Fisher had just brought in the starters in a blatant "sweep the leg" move and they were closing strong as I stepped out, boxscore suggests that didn't change but I really like focusing on how they close. Anyway, this is my favorite win of the season. The Knicks had tired legs, Miami is a good home team that's playoff bound, they outplayed us thoroughly twice already and we came into their building and SMACKED those fools from start to finish. It was a damn near a zero complaints game for me. The defense was really strong and the offense was impressive considering the opponent and game pace. I can't single out guys because so many played well, so let's just get into it.

Melo: More than 2 points per attempt last night (25 points:9-12), 5 boards (solid) and 4 assists (impressive)...April came early for Melo? This dude really looked mature out there, that's the only word I have. He wasn't getting the calls Wade or even Deng got early, but out of commercial breaks you could see him just talking to the refs instead of showing them up. The Heat, especially Green, were trying to get in his head with harsh play; he just turned that BS into 8 FTAs. The score keepers in Miami jerked him on at least one assist, two more were debatable while I watched. His passing has been phenomenal (shout out Amare's dumbass "doubt it" comment). His defense was really strong again. He looks like superstar Melo from before the injuries and there's no Jason Kidd or Rasheed Wallace to lead, he's doing it himself (with support from others but clearly he's the guy for the first time in his career as a leader).

KP: He was the most blatantly affected by the previous night's game. He wasn't as aggressive on boards and jumpers were all short. He still bottled it up into spurts of wild energy. That third quarter saw him get two blocks in quick succession and drive for what should have been a monstrous dunk (my dude needs to either two hand it or worry about the sore wrist later and stop letting the rock go early on dunks). His play has started to close on the rack more and it got him some FT's that helped his numbers. 12 and 4 with 2 blocks including one that made Wade look like a clown. He got dunked on twice...which really just shows you that he challenges everything and getting dunked on one won't stop that. But to be completely honest, Bosh went right at him and ate him for a while...another hit I'll take, because he'll learn from it.

RoLo: 9-12 for 19 points on a night when AA and KP looked a bit tired and Melo needed help...against Hassan Whiteside! RoLo's footwork actually stood out a lot here and he's legitimately on a roll with that hook (better than Cole Aldrich's at least). The Knicks are giving him the rock with deep post position more often, I've been asking for that all damned year and the impact lately has been blatant. RoLo only had 4 boards, so there's work to be done there. But he had two very nice blocks, including a stuff of Dwade amid him going off with drives early. He also set some violent picks...that's the word I have for it. By the late second, early third guys weren't running into the screens any more and our shooters prospered. GREAT game.

Jose: So Jose still could do with a couple more shots, especially on a night he plays 35 minutes, but his game was good. He outplayed Dragic! 4-5, 1-1 from 3 with 5 boards and a pair of assists. I felt he fell off a bit late in the third, but honestly he's an aging player who was left out there a long time. He's making more effort to get inside, he's not giving up defensively in spite of flaws and you can spot him directing traffic at times which is nice. Good game, but I don't like 35 minutes because I worry about his injury issues.

AA: Couldn't keep up with Wade after his torrid run in ATL, but not a lot of guys could even on rest. 9 points, 2 rebounds on 4-10 shooting. He looked a bit tired out there but he wasn't bad...just not second option "one to follow" "Rebecca's drooling in the post game interview" AA.

Lance Thomas: His only make was a late shot clock forced to take jumper...but he had 3 assists, a couple of boards (one was a legit grab off Whiteside) and he weakside blocked Whiteside badly. So his offense was gone but he gave us contributions to cover this time around. There was a pretty awesome moment where D-Will lost his man and Lance literally push Williams in the right direction than scurried back to his guy...I love seeing ish like that.

D-Will: 5-8 for 13 points...mostly guarded by the statistically scary Justise Winslow. When D-Will is hot, he's REALLY difficult to guard. Here's the thing, he can disappear against a poor defender just as easily (historically...he's on a nice run of games right now where he's strung together good production). But there were 8 rebounds in 18 minutes and that's something a locked in D-will can do; albeit maybe not 8 boards but he can hit the boards and impact the game there off athleticism. Also, if he gets 15 mins or more, he's gonna dunk it at least once.

Galloway: Not the most impressive game from him defensively but not terrible or anything. He only played 13 minutes so his statline is deceivingly solid. 5 pts, 2 ast, 3 reb on 2-3 shooting. He was steady.

Grant: Ugly statline but promising style of play. He was 1-4 but one miss was a last second take and he proved willing to pull up on a defender giving him too much room. He had 2 assists in 8 mins, not bad. One rebound, meh. Defensively he wasn't standing out to me good or bad. I'd like him to eat into Jose's time a bit, to both rest Jose some more and develop Grant's game a bit more.

KOQ: Looked like a guy who hasn't played in a bit. He was late on rotations, jumper was ugly, made the right passing decisions but they weren't crisp. 1-3, 2 points and a TO...I'm pretty certain he grabbed a board that got tallied to someone else but Idk, I usually just assume he's wolfing them. Not a good game at all, but 5 mins after no burn, can't hate much.

Fish: He easily coulda stretched the rotation and no one would complain because guys were tired...but he stuck to the tighter rotation and it was the right decision. I'd have liked more mins to our back-up guards but I get why he kept going back to our starters (they were being reliable). Anyway, enough giving the guy props for doing something fans and pundits have been crying for since I can't remember. Where he deserves his real props is that he's staggering the line-ups well (we wanted it but it was no easy task to set up, especially the KP first half tweak); using TO's to smoke opposing team's momentum and get guys in line; and not being afraid to put a player in when the team needs something. It was a coaching clinic last night with only a couple of decisions I didn't like (but fully understood the logic behind). He's pretty strict about KP's minutes, so he pulled the kid amid a time when his energy finally jumped. I didn't like it, but keeping the rookie fresh is something I'll never complain about. I also would like him to get KP in a bit earlier in the second, because he sits for a bit of a long gap there. Again, it's something I get and don't hate, but just my preference. Overall, IDK what happened, but he's coaching a lot more loosely and looks like he belongs. I was harsh when he did a bad job, I'll be completely happy to eat crow as he does a great job lately.

Random: Dragic looks like he hates the system and his teammates. I LOVED his game before Miami, but he looked pretty terrible last night. He still flashed a nasty drive by on Jose at one point and made some nice passes that guys missed, so I feel it's a chemistry/comfort thing but he's been there too long for that. Winslow is a nice prospect, but in none of the 3 games we've played Miami have I seen a wow factor. I like his game, think he'll be a really solid pro, but he needs so much development that I won't write home about him. He DEFINITELY doesn't warrant Melo trade talk though, if you were on that boat, it looked a lot like the titanic last night fam.

We don't deserve you. Not even gassing you.

at D-Will is gonna yam every game he has at least 15 mins. It's true.

at "Dragic looks like he hates the system and his teammates".

Harlow drools over Arron 'cause he's fine — not his game.

I said the same thing that Jose played 35 mins and still only took 5 shots. His 80% shooting on 5 shots angers me because he can help the team, not just by making shots, but also by showing the opposing team that they can't cheat on defense because he's willing to use his shooting abilities, but he refuses to shoot. He should be taking at least 10 shots per game (close to his career average). He's the starting pg for crying out loud. I hate him so much.

Do you know where it was in the game that "there was a pretty awesome moment where D-Will lost his man and Lance literally push Williams in the right direction than scurried back to his guy"? I wanna look for it.

 

[Victim of Racism]

a lot of bum ass nikkas in that gif with melo lumped in between
landry fields renaldo balkman jared jeffries iman shumpert (yes he's a bum too) jerome jordan
melo didnt deserve this

It's true.

 

[Victim of Racism]

Melo way better of a leader than Lebraud. Lebron dry snitching to media and shytting on teammates with quotes Melo never shows up his teammates to the public

It's nice to see a Knick fan who doesn't worship Lj and doesn't think he's perfect.

P.S. - #Lebraud