Purpose of humanity ?

[Fervid]

We are a means for the universe to observe itself.

 

[Blackking]

We are a means for the universe to observe itself.

So the Universe is conscious and has the ability to perceive?

 

[The 2020 New Member]

Are you a female?


Nothing is morally correct or incorrect its all very subjective, most people will agree that killing is wrong but most people would also step on a cockroach. Yea there is a opportunity to search for a purpose but to what end ? What good would finding a purpose do , let say that in the perfect world some group of scientist or intellectuals some where are able to find the "purpose of humanity" and they say "We as humans have been put on this earth without a shadow of a doubt to ______________________"

You know what would happen? Because its in our nature , we would fine a way to exploit it to our benefit some how either in what we think are morally correct or incorrect ways. So sometimes I think its best we don't have a clearly defined purpose, let's leave the universe as is.

no, i'm a dude.

we already live in a perfect world. large religious institutions DO tell their followers the meaning of life and DO exploit people for their benefit.

it is also in our nature to explore physically and search for meaning.

 

[newarkhiphop]

no, i'm a dude.

we already live in a perfect world. large religious institutions DO tell their followers the meaning of life and DO exploit people for their benefit.

it is also in our nature to explore physically and search for meaning.

 

[Liu Kang]

Well, it was a bait thread where zoophilia was used to blame homosexuality. I was just here to defend this behaviour because there was an analogy between those two behaviours saying that if we agreed to homosexuality, we should ALSO agree to pedo/zoo-philia...


About the subject of the thread, I did stated that I didn't see any purpose of our selves, that we were just a product of randomness.
But I thought that some people might think that there was a purpose/meaning to our existence because procreation (ie the perpetuation of our specie being our purpose => caricaturally : "men are created to procreate with women, point blank") is often brought to argue against homosexuality.

Then, I thought that people believing in this purpose may be more inclined to disregard homosexuality than others and that was in fact the original bias of our paradigms.

That's why I wanted HL's thoughts about that, wondering if I was the only one thinking like that.
:ooooooooogh:

 

[Fervid]

So the Universe is conscious and has the ability to perceive?

No, but we do, and we are part of the universe. The most abundant elements in the universe are the most abundant elements in our bodies.

 

[Hip-Hop-Bulls]

build and add on

 

[NoMayo15]

I agree with you, OP.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Nothing is morally correct or incorrect its all very subjective

Bullshyt. You don't even believe that yourself and I can prove it.

Nihilists are the most intellectually dishonest people I've ever met.​

 

[John Hull]

Our purpose is to strive against the inevitable like every other organism. Why does every life form down to the smallest bacteria posess the survival instinct? Because that's all there is you fight till you up out this bytch.

THE END

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Irony is that there is none, you are here to live them die just like every other piece of life here,from a tree to whale. Deep down inside we all know that, from the most religious person to the most convinced atheist.

Look at this for a second. My question then is how do you believe we came to be? ..and I don't mean on a scientific level necessarily because we can try and point to evolution but at some point.. it stops. If you take it back to the big bang, what's the answer prior to the big bang? What was before the big bang? nothing? How is that possible? How can something come from nothing?

See where I'm going with this? Nobody has a clue. That's what's so striking to me. Even the most knowledgeable scientist doesn't have the answers.

We're born to ask 'why'? But so far nobody can provide the answer.

 

[newarkhiphop]

Look at this for a second. My question then is how do you believe we came to be? ..and I don't mean on a scientific level necessarily because we can try and point to evolution but at some point.. it stops. If you take it back to the big bang, what's the answer prior to the big bang? What was before the big bang? nothing? How is that possible? How can something come from nothing?

See where I'm going with this? Nobody has a clue. That's what's so striking to me. Even the most knowledgeable scientist doesn't have the answers.

We're born to ask 'why'? But so far nobody can provide the answer.

We are not born to ask why,that goes with human arrogance thing I mentioned in my first post.We are born to survive, live and die. That's it, anything we do in between is for recreational purpose. Problem is your thinking too deep about this , your building a complex way of thinking when you don't need to , think of us as ants.

 

[mbewane]

Good question, I personally think that we all have this survival instinct, which would mean that our prupose as a species (just like any other) is just that, to survive and perpetuate our species. I think that's why there was so much pressure in the olden days (and still in some traditional areas) to get married and start a family: to keep the species going.

But since at some point we developped brains, thought, "morals" and all of that, we started reflecting on that. And at some point it actually became a choice to have children or not, with contraception, abortion, homosexuality (if no adoption or medically-assisted procreation), or just deciding to live alone. But once that is a possibility, it means that for that person bringing a child to this world is no longer a priority, but he/she still needs something to keep him/her going. That's maybe why people invest so much in their jobs, hobbies and whatnot, to kind of replace that "procreation" thing. Basically, they/we need another direction. Even more so now, in a the first period in which this generation (30 years old) have it somehwat worse than our parents, not on strict economical terms but as a perpective, people believed that the future would be bright just 20 years ago, but that's not what most of our generation think. so the question of procreating in this world is a very real one.

Other than that? Enjoy life I guess

 

[Blackking]

think of us as ants.

Now think of us as humans.

 

[Prodigital]

I think we're more that just a virus whom purpose is to eat all the ressources of the organism it thrives on and multiply to extinction. Better, I don't think there is a purpose/meaning to Humanity (I don't even see why there would be one) as I think randomness is what some people call "God".

See, i'm on the fence here.

If you give any other specie on this planet infinite resource they'll use all of it that they can, while humans have to think differently. We constantly have to play a balancing act that nothing else does. We simply can't use all the coal or oil we wan't because we'll end up deading ourselfs. Same goes with many other resource. If silicon ever became scarce, we'd make a harder push to use a different material for our micro chips rather than use it till its gone. We act like this because we have a share global consciousness unlike say a fox or bear that would think the woods they live in is the entire universe.

For that reason, i like to roll with biblical understanding that we are more like the farmers of earth. We are here to keep order as we see it fit, or else we will all perish. Simply enough, nothing else knows or cares. Give any animal, say rats, infinite resource and they'll keep eating and multiplying none stop. Humans on the other hand, we actually aim to keep our counts low.. better put, birthrates decline almost exponentially with education and wealth.

Our purpose seems to be maintain order in order to survive. Maybe homosexuality/zoo/pedophilia is subconsciously seen as disorderly conduct.. it disagrees with our need of shyt to be the same.. lined up. I mean even on a basic level, it makes me mad when i see a sexy lesbian cause its one less opportunity for me, even if was premeditated by life experience or even genetics, its not within the order.