Purpose of humanity ?

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Hi y'all
(long post, but we're in HL, ain't we ? :yeshrug:)

So, I was debating in that zoophilia thread yesterday about the analogy some were doing between zoo/pedo-philia and homosexuality which were both supposed to be deviant sexual behaviours.

I couldn't agree with my contradictors about this so I stopped answering because there were no point for it anymore.
Then, I put that in perspective and finally come to the conclusion that it was not that we were disagreeing about those behaviours (well, we were, but that was more a corollary of the real thing) but it was that we were in fact disagreeing about what humanity was supposed to be.

I explain : calling deviant something implies that there is a norm which the incriminated behaviour differentiates itself from. The norm being heterosexuality for the good reason that sex between a man and a woman permits procreation, then obviously, perpetuation of the human specie.

I basically agree with that norm.

But not because it's the only behaviour that permits the reproduction of our specie but only because the majority of the humanity is heterosexual which, de facto, sets this as the standard sexual behaviour, a kind of "social norm", if that exists.

That's why I think that people who don't agree with homosexuality (they have the right to, I'm not blaming them = freedom of speech, freedom of thought) consider that humanity's goal is to reproduce itself to perpetuate the specie. Therefore, it can't be no legit sexuality but heterosexuality.

That, I disagree with because I don't think that the goal of us humans is to reproduce. That's a possibility that we can use or not, but not the very meaning of our specie. I think we're more that just a virus whom purpose is to eat all the ressources of the organism it thrives on and multiply to extinction. Better, I don't think there is a purpose/meaning to Humanity (I don't even see why there would be one) as I think randomness is what some people call "God".

That's why, me, I don't care about homosexuality.
I ain't gon lie, I find weird two men kissing for example (like I find weird eating cheese) but this behaviour doesn't go against my way of thinking what humanity is to be.

To conclude, I thought that what we were really disagreeing about, in fine was the very paradigm of humanity and we would never have been able to come to an understanding because... there were none basically !

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So, what's your thoughts on that ?
Do you think the way of comprehending humanity is the bias that, then, explain our differences/disagreements about sexuality ?
How do you consider humanity and its purpose (if there's one) ?
And if you don't think that humanity has a purpose (like myself), do you think that finding a purpose is already a bias to your view on the world (or can he just be intellectual curiosity for example) ?

Discuss :smile:

PS : (It's not a debate about homosexuality (it was just the trigger to my thought) so if we are to speak about sexuality, can we just stick to it in general instead of focusing about specific behaviours ending this thread in another gay bashing/defending thread, please ? Thanks)
 

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the human race is slowly moving past just being about the best genotypes surviving. Our purpose? :yeshrug:
 

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I guess our biological purpose is to reproduce but beyond that we transcend the situation using our capacity to think. I mean, what's the purpose of a lizard? :yeshrug:
 

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We derive our purpose from our genes.

What purpose comes about from a conscious level is purely subjective in nature.
 

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So, what's your thoughts on that ?
Do you think the way of comprehending humanity is the bias that, then, explain

Honestly, I never really put to much merit into trying to "comprehend" humanity as a whole, simply because we barely even understand the physical world around us. I mean wtf is human nature, compared to something so vast and constant throughout the universe as active galaxies emitting bright quasars from billions of light years away.

Basically what I'm trying to say is humans aint shyt, everything happens by chance and random probability :manny: :yeshrug:

and Idk...
 

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our purpose is to have children and have a good time. in the span of time, our life is nothing, why not make the best of it? :manny:
 

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Humans are the most arrogant forms of life on this planet.

:laugh: @ we are always trying to find a higher "purpose" or justification for our existence.

Irony is that there is none, you are here to live them die just like every other piece of life here,from a tree to whale. Deep down inside we all know that, from the most religious person to the most convinced atheist.

Just all in denial.
 

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Humans are the most arrogant forms of life on this planet.

:laugh: @ we are always trying to find a higher "purpose" or justification for our existence.

Irony is that there is none, you are here to live them die just like every other piece of life here,from a tree to whale. Deep down inside we all know that, from the most religious person to the most convinced atheist.

Just all in denial.

that shouldn't stop people from trying to make life on earth better (even if it is incidentally for the worse and not for profit unlike PETA, etc.).

i am admittedly biased in my following argument because I am bisexual..for lack of a better word. please excuse my language:

how in hell is heteosexuality in any way morally correct, despite being a norm. not trying to get people to be gay but there are enough people without enough to eat let alone the entire population.

I agree with that fact that there is no universal concrete reason for people to exist BESIDES learning how to truly love. so logically, is there a reason...no. is there an opportunity? no doubt.
 

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Humans are the most arrogant forms of life on this planet.

:laugh: @ we are always trying to find a higher "purpose" or justification for our existence.

Irony is that there is none, you are here to live them die just like every other piece of life here,from a tree to whale. Deep down inside we all know that, from the most religious person to the most convinced atheist.

Just all in denial.


Pretty much :drunk:
 

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Humans are the most arrogant forms of life on this planet.

:laugh: @ we are always trying to find a higher "purpose" or justification for our existence.

Irony is that there is none, you are here to live them die just like every other piece of life here,from a tree to whale. Deep down inside we all know that, from the most religious person to the most convinced atheist.

Just all in denial.

Damn, my boy NHH getting philosophical on that ass.
 

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that shouldn't stop people from trying to make life on earth better (even if it is incidentally for the worse and not for profit unlike PETA, etc.).

i am admittedly biased in my following argument because I am bisexual
..for lack of a better word. please excuse my language:

how in hell is heteosexuality in any way morally correct, despite being a norm. not trying to get people to be gay but there are enough people without enough to eat let alone the entire population.

I agree with that fact that there is no universal concrete reason for people to exist BESIDES learning how to truly love. so logically, is there a reason...no. is there an opportunity? no doubt.

Are you a female?


Nothing is morally correct or incorrect its all very subjective, most people will agree that killing is wrong but most people would also step on a cockroach. Yea there is a opportunity to search for a purpose but to what end ? What good would finding a purpose do , let say that in the perfect world some group of scientist or intellectuals some where are able to find the "purpose of humanity" and they say "We as humans have been put on this earth without a shadow of a doubt to ______________________"

You know what would happen? Because its in our nature , we would fine a way to exploit it to our benefit some how either in what we think are morally correct or incorrect ways. So sometimes I think its best we don't have a clearly defined purpose, let's leave the universe as is.
 
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