Hi y'all
(long post, but we're in HL, ain't we ? )
So, I was debating in that zoophilia thread yesterday about the analogy some were doing between zoo/pedo-philia and homosexuality which were both supposed to be deviant sexual behaviours.
I couldn't agree with my contradictors about this so I stopped answering because there were no point for it anymore.
Then, I put that in perspective and finally come to the conclusion that it was not that we were disagreeing about those behaviours (well, we were, but that was more a corollary of the real thing) but it was that we were in fact disagreeing about what humanity was supposed to be.
I explain : calling deviant something implies that there is a norm which the incriminated behaviour differentiates itself from. The norm being heterosexuality for the good reason that sex between a man and a woman permits procreation, then obviously, perpetuation of the human specie.
I basically agree with that norm.
But not because it's the only behaviour that permits the reproduction of our specie but only because the majority of the humanity is heterosexual which, de facto, sets this as the standard sexual behaviour, a kind of "social norm", if that exists.
That's why I think that people who don't agree with homosexuality (they have the right to, I'm not blaming them = freedom of speech, freedom of thought) consider that humanity's goal is to reproduce itself to perpetuate the specie. Therefore, it can't be no legit sexuality but heterosexuality.
That, I disagree with because I don't think that the goal of us humans is to reproduce. That's a possibility that we can use or not, but not the very meaning of our specie. I think we're more that just a virus whom purpose is to eat all the ressources of the organism it thrives on and multiply to extinction. Better, I don't think there is a purpose/meaning to Humanity (I don't even see why there would be one) as I think randomness is what some people call "God".
That's why, me, I don't care about homosexuality.
I ain't gon lie, I find weird two men kissing for example (like I find weird eating cheese) but this behaviour doesn't go against my way of thinking what humanity is to be.
To conclude, I thought that what we were really disagreeing about, in fine was the very paradigm of humanity and we would never have been able to come to an understanding because... there were none basically !
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So, what's your thoughts on that ?
Do you think the way of comprehending humanity is the bias that, then, explain our differences/disagreements about sexuality ?
How do you consider humanity and its purpose (if there's one) ?
And if you don't think that humanity has a purpose (like myself), do you think that finding a purpose is already a bias to your view on the world (or can he just be intellectual curiosity for example) ?
Discuss
PS : (It's not a debate about homosexuality (it was just the trigger to my thought) so if we are to speak about sexuality, can we just stick to it in general instead of focusing about specific behaviours ending this thread in another gay bashing/defending thread, please ? Thanks)
(long post, but we're in HL, ain't we ? )
So, I was debating in that zoophilia thread yesterday about the analogy some were doing between zoo/pedo-philia and homosexuality which were both supposed to be deviant sexual behaviours.
I couldn't agree with my contradictors about this so I stopped answering because there were no point for it anymore.
Then, I put that in perspective and finally come to the conclusion that it was not that we were disagreeing about those behaviours (well, we were, but that was more a corollary of the real thing) but it was that we were in fact disagreeing about what humanity was supposed to be.
I explain : calling deviant something implies that there is a norm which the incriminated behaviour differentiates itself from. The norm being heterosexuality for the good reason that sex between a man and a woman permits procreation, then obviously, perpetuation of the human specie.
I basically agree with that norm.
But not because it's the only behaviour that permits the reproduction of our specie but only because the majority of the humanity is heterosexual which, de facto, sets this as the standard sexual behaviour, a kind of "social norm", if that exists.
That's why I think that people who don't agree with homosexuality (they have the right to, I'm not blaming them = freedom of speech, freedom of thought) consider that humanity's goal is to reproduce itself to perpetuate the specie. Therefore, it can't be no legit sexuality but heterosexuality.
That, I disagree with because I don't think that the goal of us humans is to reproduce. That's a possibility that we can use or not, but not the very meaning of our specie. I think we're more that just a virus whom purpose is to eat all the ressources of the organism it thrives on and multiply to extinction. Better, I don't think there is a purpose/meaning to Humanity (I don't even see why there would be one) as I think randomness is what some people call "God".
That's why, me, I don't care about homosexuality.
I ain't gon lie, I find weird two men kissing for example (like I find weird eating cheese) but this behaviour doesn't go against my way of thinking what humanity is to be.
To conclude, I thought that what we were really disagreeing about, in fine was the very paradigm of humanity and we would never have been able to come to an understanding because... there were none basically !
------------
So, what's your thoughts on that ?
Do you think the way of comprehending humanity is the bias that, then, explain our differences/disagreements about sexuality ?
How do you consider humanity and its purpose (if there's one) ?
And if you don't think that humanity has a purpose (like myself), do you think that finding a purpose is already a bias to your view on the world (or can he just be intellectual curiosity for example) ?
Discuss
PS : (It's not a debate about homosexuality (it was just the trigger to my thought) so if we are to speak about sexuality, can we just stick to it in general instead of focusing about specific behaviours ending this thread in another gay bashing/defending thread, please ? Thanks)