Punk and ratings discussion

[R=G]

Umm, that's what I said. Point is even he isn't bringing in those crazy ratings in this climate.

And you're pick and choosing. Dude has large increase in matches with guys like Orton and Big Show plus he was getting million increases just weeks before the Lawler fukkery. Ever since then he's been dropping a bit but I don't know if that turned people off or anything.

And you don't think that a 3 hour Raw has anything to do with it? You really expect people to stick with that show through all 3 hours like that? To put all of this on Punk is crazy when he's not even the one losing people.

Yeah..the Foley and Heyman segments did big but you think CM Punk, who has been floundering all year long, was the reason OUT OF THE BLUE? LOL. That's a wild train of thought.

Yes. We know. We all get it. Raw being 3 hours has fukked up the viewing thing. The 3rd hours are reaching historical lows and the first two hours are the highest of the night.

 

[StatUS]

For the rating don't mean nothing crowd
PWTorch.com - WWE BIZ: Mania & Summerslam carry WWE through first nine months of 2012; Top 10 Ranking of revenue segments

-- The following are the top-ranked revenue-drivers through the first nine months of 2012.

(1) TV Rights Fees: $98.9 million
(2) Live Events: $80.4 million
(3) PPV Revenue: $70.6 million

Rights fees for the most part is based on ratings. While Raw ratings are down, they're still high for cable.



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All this only matters to stock holders.

You guys would have hated Bret, Shawn, and Taker during the mid-90s

Yeah..the Foley and Heyman segments did big but you think CM Punk, who has been floundering all year long, was the reason OUT OF THE BLUE? LOL. That's a wild train of thought.

Yes. We know. We all get it. Raw being 3 hours has fukked up the viewing thing. The 3rd hours are reaching historical lows and the first two hours are the highest of the night.

That's the point. When you got matches drawing 2.1s right before how the hell is it the champs fault when people come back into the fold minutes later.

 

[InstantKlassik]

That is his problem right there.

yep

 

[captaincharisma]

just to be clear those that think this all made up and cm punk hate, dont you remember weeks ago:

vince blew up backstage and fired gerwitz and said "i want results or resignations"?

McMahon's top stars, along with pressure from NBC Universal to fix the ratings is said to be a huge slap in McMahon's face. This all played a factor in McMahon making drastic changes.

 

[Swiggy]

just to be clear those that think this all made up and cm punk hate, dont you remember weeks ago:

vince blew up backstage and fired gerwitz and said "i want results or resignations"?

I forgot that

 

[R=G]

You guys would have hated Bret, Shawn, and Taker during the mid-90s

I did. That's why I turned the channel and watched the NwO and Sting.

That's the point. When you got matches drawing 2.1s right before how the hell is it the champs fault when people come back into the fold minutes later.

How many excuses are you gonna provide? Did the 365 day celebration not get PROMOTED all night and what was the numbers on that segment? Disgusting. There is no excuses or reasoning you can think of. That's just how it is.

 

[StatUS]

just to be clear those that think this all made up and cm punk hate, dont you remember weeks ago:

vince blew up backstage and fired gerwitz and said "i want results or resignations"?

NBC and WWE are two horribly inept companies. If they wanted the ratings to go back up they'd get rid of the 3rd hour but they are paying the E alot of money for it. So they are basically losing money on that deal

Secondly, if McMahon was so mad he'd shake the product up. Nothing has really changed since that news came out.

Like I said a month ago they should have given the belt to Ryback when he was hot, see if he could draw. But they didn't and now besides the tag team division Raw is stuck in the same place as it's been since 04.

They're too lazy and too ignorant to change anything even if they panic. Without competition or maybe dipping to 2 million viewers they aint changing a damn thing.

 

[StatUS]

I did. That's why I turned the channel and watched the NwO and Sting.

fukk the WWE period if another show was on Monday, except a Russo booked show I never favored Raw.

How many excuses are you gonna provide? Did the 365 day celebration not get PROMOTED all night and what was the numbers on that segment? Disgusting. There is no excuses or reasoning you can think of. That's just how it is.

Didn't lose viewers like everything else that hour even the AJ segment. Also did the highest gain that night

 

[I-Hate-You]

highest gain of the night and the fourth worst overrun in the last 15 years. Only topped by three other Punk overruns and followed by another two.

but he got that gain tho

 

[R=G]

 

[StatUS]

highest gain of the night and the fourth worst overrun in the last 15 years. Only topped by three other Punk overruns and followed by another two.

but he got that gain tho

Yep during a 3rd hour with everyone tuning out of each segment that hour since Raw 1000.

People seem to conveniently forget about that though

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

Oooooooh now it's because the shows are shyt that Punk can't get those ratings rating? Well during the time period Diesel and Shawn Michaels were champions was one of the most garbage eras in pro wrestling. It sucked. But you all have no problem calling them out for it. If Cena pulled in consistently low overruns like that you'd be Well, maybe you'll get your wish because wrestling is so fragile at this point any viewers lost may never be regained, no matter who's on top.

But you can't deny that Punk has been given the full green light. A year long reign? Might even beat Cena's? A guy who has consistently pulled in low ratings? Just be happy dude is the centrepiece of the show. People are going to bring up the ratings because they suck and the champ gets the blame. It's not something concocted to shyt on Punk.

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[StatUS]

Oooooooh now it's because the shows are shyt that Punk can't get those ratings rating? Well during the time period Diesel and Shawn Michaels were champions was one of the most garbage eras in pro wrestling. It sucked. But you all have no problem calling them out for it. If Cena pulled in consistently low overruns like that you'd be Well, maybe you'll get your wish because wrestling is so fragile at this point any viewers lost may never be regained, no matter who's on top.

But you can't deny that Punk has been given the full green light. A year long reign? Might even beat Cena's? A guy who has consistently pulled in low ratings? Just be happy dude is the centrepiece of the show. People are going to bring up the ratings because they suck and the champ gets the blame. It's not something concocted to shyt on Punk.

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Cena did a 100,000 less overrun than Punk just a few weeks after 1000. But because the rating was above 3.0 it isn't considered all time low.

This third hour is such an anomaly that we can't put all the blame on any feature player for it. People just aren't willing to stay with the show that long and until I'm proven wrong on that it's gonna be the main problem. It's not like there's a Sting vs NWO angle going on that's enticing anyone to stay.

 

[WOAHMYGOODNESS]

why do wrestling fans even care about ratings? huh?

 

[Nintendough]

Look at who Phillip has to share a stage with and tell me its his fault. CM got yall so mad simply by being the best...sort of reminds me of somebody else. :HickenGOAT3::HickenGOAT3: