“ Protect all black women. Not just the ones you’re attracted to”

[Youseenmywork]

The black community is a matriarch it has always been ran by women and will continue to run by women . Once women got the power they not going to give it up . I'm not listening to no woman talk about masculinity just like you wouldn't listen and don't listen when men talk about feminine energy .

 

[Canada Goose]

I think theres a very real discussion to be had about toxic masculinity, misogyny, and how in the YOoL 2020, Black Women are still very objectified by a European Standard of Beauty.

After a discussion with my girl, that last point is something that Ive realized as a man, i will never understand.

Lets keep it 100: Men are largely able to create value based off of their wit, intellect, wealth, success with physical attractiveness largely not mattering. Whereas even in modern times, post feminism, post women in the work place, the more attractive a woman (which is largely based on Euro standards), the more shes able to manuever through life.

Ive been a professional worker for about 10 years now, and id be a liar if i dont see it happen. So imagine being a woman where you notice every instance of being judged based on your looks (in addition to race, religion, etc).

WITH THAT SAID

I consider it one of the greatest victories of White Supremacy, that Black Women think this sort of plight is unique to Black Women.

Ive been raised around cacs most of my life (dad was an army vet). So lemme tell you, Cacs hate their women. DESPISE them.

Ive never seen a group of men be so emasculated by the slightest bit of individuality and independence. Especially if its sexual.

For fun insight, go to any barstool sports IG meme featuring a beautiful cac woman and the most liked post will 90% of the time be some white frat boy shytting on the chick in the post. I guarantee it.

It really is a grass aint always greener scenario. Due to the socioeconomic history of Black folks, YES, things like domestic violence probably does skew higher along with familial abandonment.

But on the other side of that? With Cacs and Arabs and Asians? They expect pure submission from their women. They beat their women, their women just dont report it. They dont want their women to work or have a presence in the household. They are FAR more judgmental of sexual history, out of wedlock children, and body types.

Whereas Black Men IMO and from my perspective, are much more open to individuality, independence, curves, women with kids and yes even body counts (despite what the coli perpetuates).

Things are far from perfect, but its *problematic* in my opinion to contextualize misogyny as JUST the moral failings of Black Men and not men in general.

I bet a bunch of Coli posters was gonna dap your post until you said Black Men don't mind wifing up women with kids and high body counts

 

[Youseenmywork]

Anybody not on code, is an agent for CACs. Notice who never comes to black empowerment threads and never (at least) lurk on The Root.

Don't do this

 

[Barnett114]

GPBear negged you for your post in the thread How do we fix this gender war?. With the following comment: bytch about women and illegal immigrants, remind me how y'all aint republicans

@GPBear

Yo cracker ass has already been temp banned for not staying in your place, a topic about black men and women's relations has nothing to do with you and doesn't need your input

Stay in your fukking place, my patience is wearing thin.

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

You know something? Out of all the women posters here I respect you the most. You always speak from a non-biased and accountable point of view. Every other woman here bends, twists, and alters the point being made to make it so they do not have to take accountability. It happens every time in every thread, even in this one. That is why I tend not to reply at all because it is obvious that women will pretend that they do not do what they are being called out on.

but you are fair. From black man to black woman, thank you.

This is beautiful. Real facts.
Hmmm. Thread is not going in the direction that I thought it would, good to see that the Shea butter bitters were shut down and not monopolizing the thread with their anti black union stances /anti black male positions with all the mud slinging. That a real black woman of value actually came through, broke this down, dispelling the myths and stereotypes in a rational and relatable way.

glad to see something positive came out of the interaction. . @HarlemHottie you did your thing sis. Proud moment.

 

[HarlemHottie]

Stay in your fukking place, my patience is wearing thin.

 

[born of fire]

there’s been so much divide lately. it’s getting overwhelming.

 

[blase_chic]

You should have came here back in 2014 to early 2017....that was when your philosophy was rampant.

What do you mean?

 

[ba'al]

GPBear negged you for your post in the thread How do we fix this gender war?. With the following comment: bytch about women and illegal immigrants, remind me how y'all aint republicans

@GPBear

Yo cracker ass has already been temp banned for not staying in your place, a topic about black men and women's relations has nothing to do with you and doesn't need your input

Stay in your fukking place, my patience is wearing thin.

"Agree to disagree." Now this smug cac calling nikkas clowns. SMH Divide and Conquer i guess as usual.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

GPBear negged you for your post in the thread How do we fix this gender war?. With the following comment: bytch about women and illegal immigrants, remind me how y'all aint republicans

@GPBear

Yo cracker ass has already been temp banned for not staying in your place, a topic about black men and women's relations has nothing to do with you and doesn't need your input

Stay in your fukking place, my patience is wearing thin.

Wait that cac is still around?

 

[Barnett114]

Wait that cac is still around?

He just came back from a temp ban about a week or two ago, had been gone for about four months.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

The black community is a matriarch it has always been ran by women and will continue to run by women . Once women got the power they not going to give it up . I'm not listening to no woman talk about masculinity just like you wouldn't listen and don't listen when men talk about feminine energy .

Disagree. Its up to educated, conscious and financially secured Black men to steer the wheel. Women will naturally follow along. The Black community is a matriarchy but its one that is in chaos. But.... This will take a lot of time.

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

You fukkin guys are clowns

You really should shut the f up in black conversations that have no bearing to your Caucasian way of life. You are becoming the white male version of @biscuitsnbangers aka @idontposthereanymore . I’ve noticed it, others have noticed since your return. You’ve been given a lot of leverage in the past. Especially considering the racial climate is the way that it is- you need to proceed with caution. You did see how it ended for her right?? Never know who’s watching and who has access to what that could potentially come back at you when lines are crossed.

the sense of white entitlement intruding in black male/female conversations that you don’t have a part of since you can’t relate. take that as advice because next time won’t be a warning. Ask your cac coli counterpart how that worked out for her??Because right now we are on zero tolerance for the dumb shyt. Definitely don’t speak for me as a Black woman- engage in conversations that are conducive to your brand of discussions. Reddit does exist if you feel the need to generalize black men or black relationship interactions through your white perception.

 

[Marc Spector]

Not really. Nowadays, the beauty is set in the standards of body shape and body parts of a woman based off of IG. A dkinny white woman with long blonde hair and blue eyes ain't gonna get as far as that mixed race/"exotic" ethnic woman with a natural big ass ans an hourglass figure. Which is why secretaries on many companiies have visually attractive women of those body shapes.

Breh im at a point where im not gonna confirm or deny this shyt. Im a man. I don't know how it is

Thats their lived in experience. Am i to assume that they're all lying or delusional? Cuz thats the same shyt cacs say about racism.

I maintain that as far as Black men should be concerned, the problem isn't whether colorism or domestic violence is happening as often as they say, but rather that BLACK MEN ARE BEING PAINTED AS THE FACE OF MISOGYNY. It's completely intellectually dishonest, treating Black misogyny as somehow "worse".

THe solutions IMO are

1. Black Women have to realize that misogyny in our communities is a direct result of White Supremacy. They shouldnt stop voicing their pain, but treating Black Men as the Demon Horde who are only here to steal, kill and destroy is *not* going to change hearts and minds.

2. Tell me what success looks like. Even after this discussion with my girl, she couldnt really give me an example of Black men on a everyday level can show more love and support to Black Women. Every example she gave was rooted in some notion that all Black Men behaved like the worst type of Black man.

for example

Her: "Well black men should date/show affection to women with features that West African women have"

Me: Well i mean, im dating you and all but one of my closest black male friends date and/or married to Black women with dark skin, big noses big lips, etc . ..furthermore even if you see a breh pawging, how do you know he doesnt date Non Mixed Black women?



Her: Black men need to stop bashing Black women on social media

Me: I literally no zero men who do this. . Actually i take that back, my one cousin does this and this nikka has to beat Black women off with a stick so what does that say?


...And so on and so on.

Im not against our women voicing their pain, but goddamn gimme something i can work with here Most Black men want things to improve between black men and women.

 

[Wild self]

Breh im at a point where im not gonna confirm or deny this shyt. Im a man. I don't know how it is

Thats their lived in experience. Am i to assume that they're all lying or delusional? Cuz thats the same shyt cacs say about racism.

I maintain that as far as Black men should be concerned, the problem isn't whether colorism or domestic is happening as often as they say, but rather that BLACK MEN ARE BEING PAINTED AS THE FACE OF MISOGYNY. It's completely intellectually dishonest, treating Black misogyny as somehow "worse".

THe solutions IMO are

1. Black Women have to realize that misogyny in our communities is a direct result of White Supremacy. They shouldnt stop voicing their pain, but treating Black Men as the Demon Horde who are only here to steal, kill and destroy is *not* going to change hearts and minds.

2. Tell me what success looks like. Even after this discussion with my girl, she couldnt really give me an example of Black men on a everyday level can show more love and support to Black Women. Every example she gave was rooted in some notion that all Black Men behaved like the worst type of Black man.

for example

Her: "Well black men should date/show affection to women with features that West African women have"

Me: Well i mean, im dating you and all but one of my closest black male friends date and/or married to Black women with dark skin, big noses big lips, etc . ..furthermore even if you see a breh pawging, how do you know he doesnt date Non Mixed Black women?



Her: Black men need to stop bashing Black Men on social media

Me: I literally no zero men who do this. . Actually i take that back, my one cousin does this and this nikka has to beat Black women off with a stick so what does that say?


...And so on and so on.

Im not against our women voicing their pain, but goddamn gimme something i can work with here Most Black men want things to improve between black men and women.

That is true, and most black people marry with each other, unlike what the media tells us.

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

Only black women I'm concerned with protecting are my family members. That's it. fukk everyone else