Producers: Would You Sell Your Publishing...

[BrothaZay]

A Top 40 Hit on the Billboard Hot100 will usually generate a couple hundred thousand dollars for all parties involved on the song...

A Top 10 Hit on the Billboard Hot100 will generate over a million dollars...

And all parties involved in a #1 Record on the Billboard Hot100 are usually is set for life...

This nikka mike will must be fuccin eatin then

He got be rick ross size by the end the year if he keep this up

 

[bouncy]

Those dudes aren't really eating like that... neither are cats like The Inkredibles whose bulk placements contain Samples. Justice League was smart enough to orchestrate their own music most of the time so they made a shytload of money when they had their run...

I wouldn't give it up altogether if it's part of your style. Jr Rotem's biggest hits all contained samples or elements of sampling & even though they generated millions & he was only able to take home maybe a $100,000 from each the amount of work & $$$ opportunities he got from having those chart topping singles more then made up for it...

Between 2003 & 2013 Jr Rotem has generated over $30,000,000 with his music & around 75% of all of his Top 40 Hits (where the real money is) contained Samples in some way shape or form...

But I personally know dude is sitting on something close to $15,000,000-$20,000,000...

Pharrell took a huge hit with "Blurred Lines" but in the end because it went #1 it will mean he will get a shytload of work in this next 12 months & his name is hot again after basically having a horrible couple years of filing bankruptcy to selling his Miami condo to not even making Brittany Spears & JT's last albums because of how far "The Neptunes" brand fell... so he disassociated himself from it...

It's nothing wrong with Sampling *IF* the hit you'll take on the Publishing side is worth helping your Brand grow...

You don't think chopping up the sample, messing with the eq, and putting layers over it, is a way to get a pass from losing money due to sampling?.

I had a lawyer tell me, if they can't notice it, don't tell them. The way I see it, if they ask me where did the sound come from, I can just say I was messing around, and came up with it. They can't prove if I'm lying or not


BTW, the way I sample it's not easy to tell if it's a sample or if I did it myself. The sample is just something that I use to get my juices flowing, and to add to the song because those old sounds have a certain feel to them. I don't do loops.

 

[Ninjaz In Paris]

You don't think chopping up the sample, messing with the eq, and putting layers over it, is a way to get a pass from losing money due to sampling?.

I had a lawyer tell me, if they can't notice it, don't tell them. The way I see it, if they ask me where did the sound come from, I can just say I was messing around, and came up with it. They can't prove if I'm lying or not


BTW, the way I sample it's not easy to tell if it's a sample or if I did it myself. The sample is just something that I use to get my juices flowing, and to add to the song because those old sounds have a certain feel to them. I don't do loops.

Labels aren't risking lawsuits anymore from Sampling so as a Producer if you don't tell them you sampled a song & it comes out later that one of your beats contains a sample regardless of whether you can tell or not they'll probably never work with you again & you probably won't be able to get work because of that reputation...

Samples don't have to be recognized anymore... all music containing samples have to still go through a clearance & getting blackballed is not worth risking for something that's only gonna come out the labels pocket anyway...

 

[bouncy]

Labels aren't risking lawsuits anymore from Sampling so as a Producer if you don't tell them you sampled a song & it comes out later that one of your beats contains a sample regardless of whether you can tell or not they'll probably never work with you again & you probably won't be able to get work because of that reputation...

Samples don't have to be recognized anymore... all music containing samples have to still go through a clearance & getting blackballed is not worth risking for something that's only gonna come out the labels pocket anyway...

Appreciate the advise but, from what I gather based on what you stated is, the lawyer was right. If they can't recognize it's a sample, then I don't have to tell them since they would never find out it's a sample anyway.

I just need to not show someone that part of the beat making because they may snitch on me. This shyt is like the street game

I will play the game just like these record labels are playing. In essence they are using my honesty against me, yet they are withholding all kinds of shyt from their artist, and get away with it because nothing can be "PROVEN".

Man, once you learn how to manipulate things, you can play the people who are trying to play you.

 

[nineteeneightysix]

...to 100 of your best beats for $1,750 upfront; a chance to be placed on TV shows, films, video games, and ads; and, ultimately, backend writer's share royalties?

Things to consider: you don't have time or the contacts to actively shop your material right now; you'd love to have an opportunity to get known once you start getting placements; great way to build your producer résumé.

I want a guarantee that I will be placed on TV shows, films, video games, and ads...

I can make $1750 working my regular job, but all that other marketing is priceless...

So, with TV shows, films and etc on the line, I think nobody beatmaker is getting a pretty good deal, because those things will introduce you to A LOT more power players, and a bigger audience...

That can easily be turned to a solid fan base, touring money, and a descent independent career...

It's worth it...A hot beat is nothing on it's own...It needs the right rapper at the right time, and that's not easy to accomplish...