Probably a bad guy for my vaccination case studies

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Also, note that most of what we eat is poison and especially in the modern world..... our science has enabled us to live longer, unhealthier lives. My fam mem from back 'home' have a tomb (i know thats creepy n wierd) dates are like 1901 - 2001, 1890- 1981, n shyt. IJS. and they grow their own food n shyt. Lets not kill ourselves but draw it out longer due to poisonous food and unnatural vaccines.

Is natural immunity better than vaccination?
A natural infection often provides more complete immunity than a series of vaccinations — but there's a price to pay for natural immunity. For example, a natural chickenpox (varicella) infection could lead to pneumonia. A natural polio infection could cause permanent paralysis. A natural mumps infection could lead to deafness. A natural Hib infection could result in permanent brain damage. Vaccination can help prevent these diseases and their potentially serious complications.

So natural is better. My son is damn near a super human. he can eat shyt off a public restroom and be better than the average person. my other sons would be sick right away. ntm, he walked at 8 months, talked shortly after, was months ahead of every 'marker' for babies. As far as things like Chickenpox, etc... the vaccines can have complications and aren't complete anyway.

In Austrialia the parents who say no to vaccinations (and make other smart choices ) are called baby genius parents.

Do vaccines cause autism?
Vaccines do not cause autism. Despite much controversy on the topic, researchers haven't found a connection between autism and childhood vaccines. In fact, the original study that ignited the debate years ago has been retracted.

Although signs of autism may appear at about the same time children receive certain vaccines — such as the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine — this is simply a coincidence.

Probably just a coincidence... I don't think it causes autism, but idk.

Are vaccine side effects dangerous?
Any vaccine can cause side effects. Usually, these side effects are minor — low-grade fever, and soreness, redness or swelling at the injection site. Some vaccines cause a temporary headache, dizziness, fatigue or loss of appetite. Rarely, a child may experience a severe allergic reaction or a neurological side effect, such as a seizure. Although these rare side effects are a concern, vaccines are much safer than the diseases they prevent.

Of course, vaccines aren't given to children who have known allergies to specific vaccine components. Likewise, if your child develops a life-threatening reaction to a particular vaccine, further doses of that vaccine won't be given.

Of course vaccines are safer than diseases... but no vaccines and preventive measures produce 0 side effects

Why are vaccines given so early?
Diseases that childhood vaccines are meant to prevent are most likely to occur when a child is very young and the risk of complications is greatest. That makes early vaccination — sometimes beginning shortly after birth — essential. If you postpone vaccines until a child is older, it may be too late.

Some nations are already telling parents to wait longer.

http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/adverseeffects.pdf
study shows that there are some effects.... but overall they prevent dangerous despises.



Robert Mendelsohn, MD voiced his concern: “There is growing suspicion that immunization against relatively harmless childhood diseases may be responsible for the dramatic increase in autoimmune diseases since mass inoculations were introduced. These are fearful diseases such as cancer, leukemia, rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis, Lou Gehrig’s disease, lupus erythematosus, and the Guillain-Barre syndrome.”

The only safe vaccine is a vaccine that’s never used.
Dr James A Shannon, US National Institutes of Health

There is a great deal of evidence to prove that immunization of children does more
harm than good.
Dr J Anthony Morris, former Chief Vaccine Control Officer and research virologist, US FDA

 

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Vaccines have saved magnitudes more lives than they have ruined. FACT. Can any of you vaccine haters deny this?

We don't know who would have gotten something that they didn't get.. plus the V aren't 100% effective like natural V is.

Regardless that's not the point....


Slowly, but very surely, the world's Great Power democracies are slipping into totalitarianism, all the while swearing that the transition away from liberty and freedom is for our own good.

The most recent example of this rising "soft tyranny" took place in "the land Down Under" - Australia - once an icon of rugged individualism. There, the socialist Labor government, led by Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, is forcing parents to immunize their children under threat of losing a sizeable tax credit.

According to the Australian Broadcasting Corporation News (ABC News) :

... Rudd has announced that parents who choose not to have their children vaccinated will miss out on thousands of dollars in government benefits.

Speaking at Westmead Hospital in Sydney on Sunday, Mr Rudd said those who do not vaccinate their children will not get the Family Tax Benefit A end-of-year supplement.

The payment is worth $726 per child, per year and is paid when children are vaccinated at one, two and five years of age.

Common sense would suggest that, if we are giving our children more than five dozen vaccinations from day of birth to age 18, we are over-vaccinating our children.

Yet, authorities continue to insist that "more is better" when it comes to vaccines without providing adequate scientific evidence to justify that assumption.

If you follow the CDC's recommended vaccination schedule, your child will receive 49 doses of 14 vaccines by the time he/she is 6 years of age.

And by the age of 18, the CDC recommends that children should have gotten 69 doses of 16 vaccines.

When I first started practicing medicine in 1985, it cost parents $80 to purchase vaccines for their children (plus the cost of a doctor's visit) to comply with the CDC's recommended childhood vaccination schedule.

Today, you'll pay $2200 to purchase all government recommended and mandated vaccines for a child (plus the cost of office visits) because the numbers of vaccines recommended for children have tripled in the past three decades.

Sadly though, the short term financial costs to fully vaccinate your child according to the CDC schedule may actually pale in comparison to the costs to your child's long-term health.

The list of problems related to today's vaccines, and vaccine policy, is long and troubling.

For starters:

1. Children not all biologically identical. The current one-size-fits-all approach to vaccination does not take into account differences among children's genetic profiles or immune responses based on factors such as age, weight, and overall health status.
2. Infant mortality rates between nations appears to be linked to the numbers of vaccinations given to babies before the age of 12 months. More vaccines may contribute to higher infant mortality.
3. Babies receive several vaccines at once—they may receive 8 vaccines or more simultaneously at a doctor visit (between 2 and 15 months of age). Vaccine "layering" may increase the risk for a serious vaccine reaction.
4. Vaccines have not been adequately tested for safety using methodologically sound scientific studies, so their long-term health effects are unknown. Moreover, the effects of multiple vaccines given together have not been adequately tested. And pharmaceutical companies have financed nearly all vaccine research to date, which introduces enormous bias.
5. Vaccines do not provide complete or permanent protection against infectious disease. For example, 75 percent of children who contracted chickenpox in a 2001 Maryland outbreak had been vaccinated against chickenpox. A high number of vaccinated persons also have been found in pertussis and mumps outbreaks.
6. Vaccines are not always sterile but can be contaminated with bacteria, viral fragments, and foreign human and animal DNA.
7. Vaccines may contain toxic additives (including aluminum and mercury), which can contribute to your child's toxic load.
8. Some vaccines are associated with a higher number of serious health problems, both immediate and delayed, yet healthcare professionals rarely report vaccine adverse events. Every year, more than 25,000 adverse reactions are reported to the government, including irreversible injuries and deaths. It's been estimated that this represents only about 1 to 10 percent of total vaccine reactions, which means that millions of people may have suffered vaccine reactions and injuries over the past few years.
9. Vaccines, say some researchers, may contain excitotoxins that disrupt your child's immune system (through microglial overstimulation) and damage developing brain structures, which raises his/her risk for a wide range of diseases, including autism, learning disabilities, and psychiatric disorders. New research gives evidence for a link between the high number of vaccines and the autism epidemic.
10. Many children receive even more vaccines than the vaccination schedule recommends. If you take your child to multiple health care providers or facilities, the odds are increased that your child may be given "extra" doses. Ten percent of children aged 19 to 35 months were found to have received extra vaccinations, according to a National Immunization Survey.
11. Preventing natural immune responses to environmental pathogens may not be in your child's best interest. Healthy children receive life-long benefits from naturally occurring immune responses.


http://www.naturalnews.com/041729_t...dication_child_vaccination.html#ixzz2et0UwQMG

 

[Blackking]

pharmaceutical companies have financed nearly all vaccine research to date

plus, lets not know what 70 million times 2000 is brehs...

 

[Tunez]

I got natural remedies for my future son

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

So, basically a liar scared you into believing vaccines were dangerous back in 1998 and you've been rolling with it ever since even though it was proven false and diseases that once devastated whole communities are returning because of people NOT vaccinating their kids, but that can't be true because science is full of liars EXCEPT the one that actually was caught lying for money.


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[Blackking]

So, basically a liar scared you into believing vaccines were dangerous back in 1998 and you've been rolling with it ever since even though it was proven false and diseases that once devastated whole communities are returning because of people NOT vaccinating their kids, but that can't be true because science is full of liars EXCEPT the one that actually was caught lying for money.


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Everyone I know gets these shots and gives their children all of the 60 shots.

Pediatricians and the medical community recommend you get them...

There really isn't too many parents that don't vaccinate, but there's enough information for people to make their own decisions.

but to answer the question... yes I was focused on vaccinations and related things when I was mid teen and being 'scared' is why I DON'T believe in vaccinations...

when the industry that makes the billions off a few products is also the same group funding politicians and conducting the 'research' then it makes people wanna look into it. Plus, there are some other real concerns, but I won't beat a dead horse. And I believe there was a thread made by a poster right in HL about 'dis trust' in science and shyt like that..... scientist actually did a study to trick people into believing that if you don't follow everything they say as 100% truth then you are a complete and total idiot.... and also science makes you more moral (cough)

gottdamn shame what happened to that thread....

 

[Morph]

Risk brain damage in your infants/children due to natural infection of
Haemophilus influenzae
type b, brehs.​

These are the same scare tactics that doctors and Big Pharma use to trick you into vaccination.
"If you don't get this your life is ruined!!!"

In 1988, before the HiB vaccine became available, the infection rate for children under 5 was at 129 per every 100,000. Simply math tells us that this is an infection rate of %0.00129. That's MUCH less than 1%. Even BEFORE a vaccine was commercially available for HiB, HiB infection was virtually impossible.
http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/218271-overview#a0199


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How many of your parents or grandparents have had vaccines? How were they ever able to survive this long without them? Medical professionals using fear and scare tactics for profit is sick, no pun.

Do they work? Sometimes. Is vaccination essential to function as a human being? No.

THIS!!^^^^^^^

Most of these viruses (or virii?) have been around for probably hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of years. They didn't just pop up out of nowhere. For example, the earliest traces of HIV have dated to over a million years (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21189141).

But back to using scare tactics. You guys remember this:

Scary huh? Government forcing people to get HIV tested. So much for a free country.

forget about what the world was like before modern national health practices and disease control brehs

What's your point?

The world has changed drastically in the last 100 years.

Think about what life was like in 1913:

• Hospitals weren't properly ventilated or thoroughly cleaned
• Patients were crowded into cramped spaces with other sick people.
• Most people didn't have access to proper water and sewage services, especially in rural areas
• Hygiene and diet practices were almost unheard of

Of course people were getting sick, not because they didn't have vaccinations, but because simple preventable actions like washing your hands thoroughly, cleaning your cooking space and utensils properly, ventilation in your home, diet and exercise, refrigeration for meat/poultry and cooking food thoroughly at appropriate temperatures was almost unheard of. Was indoor plumbing and electricity widely available in 1913? Probably not.

Vaccines have saved magnitudes more lives than they have ruined. FACT. Can any of you vaccine haters deny this?

Maybe, but also attitudes about hygiene and overall preventive measures like washing your hands, refrigerating your food properly, cooking food at appropriate temperatures, modern sewage systems, etc. have more of an impact than vaccination.

Think about this: 70% of all leprosy cases in the world occur in India. About half of leprosy cases originate in the Ganges plains. The Ganges River is one of the most polluted rivers in the world. It is a dumping site for chemical waste, human waste, and dead bodies. People living near the Ganges use the waters of the river to drink, feed their animals, bathe, wash their clothes, agriculture, and rituals and such. The Ganges is also a 'public toilet'.... Imagine sitting in that:

Spoiler

Spoiler

pharmaceutical companies have financed nearly all vaccine research to date

This right here too. The HPV epidemic is another manufactured epidemic.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

These are the same scare tactics that doctors and Big Pharma use to trick you into vaccination.
"If you don't get this your life is ruined!!!"

In 1988, before the HiB vaccine became available, the infection rate for children under 5 was at 129 per every 100,000. Simply math tells us that this is an infection rate of %0.00129. That's MUCH less than 1%. Even BEFORE a vaccine was commercially available for HiB, HiB infection was virtually impossible.
http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/218271-overview#a0199
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From your link.....

By 2000, the number of cases in children younger than 5 years decreased by more than 99%. With the success of the Hib conjugate vaccine, at least half of invasive H influenzae infections are now caused by the nonencapsulated strains, and Hib meningitis has almost disappeared in the United States and Canada.

http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/17/9/10-1991_article.htm

Volume 17, Number 9—September 2011
Research
Increasing Incidence of Invasive Haemophilus influenzae Disease in Adults, Utah, USA

Since the introduction of the Haemophilus influenzae type b vaccine, the incidence of invasiveH. influenzae type b disease among children has fallen dramatically, but the effect on invasive H. influenzae disease among adults may be more complex. In this population-based study we examined the epidemiology and outcomes of invasive disease caused by typeable and nontypeable H. influenzae among Utah adults during 1998–2008. The overall incidence increased over the study period from 0.14/100,000 person-years in 1998 to 1.61/100,000 person-years in 2008. The average incidence in persons >65 years old was 2.74/100,000 person-years, accounting for 51% of cases and 67% of deaths. The incidence was highest for nontypeable H. influenzae (0.23/100,000 person-years), followed by H. influenzae type f (0.14/100,000 person-years). The case-fatality rate was 22%. The incidence of invasive H. influenzae in Utah adults appears to be increasing. Invasive H. influenzae infection disproportionately affected the elderly and was associated with a high mortality rate.

 

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How many of your parents or grandparents have had vaccines? How were they ever able to survive this long without them? Medical professionals using fear and scare tactics for profit is sick, no pun.

Do they work? Sometimes. Is vaccination essential to function as a human being? No.

Saying Vacc are essential to functions as a human is sick and twisted. Science is advanced enough to give us these vaccinations - that's true. Science is also advanced enough to allow us to naturally prevent most things. There is a reason that the wealthiest, most educated, and most aware segments of some of these other nations are not vaccinating. There's a reason that the studies that mandate these shots and force this issue to crush the freedom of populations - are all funded by big pharma.

So many independent medical professionals, even some formally working for our own gov, have expressed concerned over the effects, number of shots, etc.

And idk if this question was directed at me but........... where my peps are from most, people live great lives. My granddad married all these 'city' wives and out lived 3 of them. 1 post office, no mall, and a long trip to a good hospital. but they r aware enough about growing their own food n shyt that he was climbing down hills hunting n shyt with dogs at age 85.

We are living longer............... but sicker and rougher lives in the western world. me and my afgan friend went back to his spot overseas.... and we felt like out of shape dikkheads. We work out but every male in the village had a six pack. They are relevantly 'modern' there. That's the point......... why use science to poison people with food? Why use science to pump 100's of billions of dollars into the pockets of the same people creating the 'studies' that show we 'need' vaccinations. Posters screaming ducktales, when my own son is naturally being vaccinated from most things............
the few things you can't naturally vaccinate from - you still can catch w vaccinations.

idk who has kids on here.... but while a woman is preg there are certain foods she shouldn't eat- lead mercury, toxins, additives...... are in those foods. Baby comes out and before he turns 2 years old he's supposed to have 7-10 shots with all that shyt in them???? how does that make sense?

Not to mention, it's not like out bodies are the same as they were in the ancient times.... we natural adapt as a species and some things change quickly. Especially for white people.... Europe was a gross breading ground for epidemic and disease.... so they naturally built immunity that some populations could die from. Now European descendant scientist are pushing shyt on to people when one-size-fits-all approach to vaccination does not take into account differences among children's genetic profiles or immune responses based on factors such as age, weight, and overall health status. Everyone is different... there are American processed foods that fukk up the skin and other organs of the typical person in Japan or China more than the average white girl..... The majority of the African Diaspora can built muscle and increase strength at a fast rate than most other groups.., Obviously the Native Americans and Europeans were built differently.


Also, studies show that good hospital practices and things as simple as washing hands >vaccinations at prevention. Some foods slow your reactions, decrease memory and even lower or increase IQ. Diet is important.... these vaccinations aren't as bad as a junk food diet, but not by much. We aren't using the science correctly because too much money and cacerism is involved... cancer rates will continue to increase 50- 75% and everything else will increase - but wait, we are living longer so it's ok i guess.

 

[OsO]

Conclusion is....
Maybe I'm a bad guy for taking that risk, but I'm suspicious that the Ped is pushing this shyt harder than heroine in the 70's for money reasons. I'm suspicious at the fact that unlike my other kids, this last one puts random shyt from the ground in his mouth, does random nasty shyt, we never purchased hand sanitizer or act extra careful... and he still is healthy as fukk.

Then I read something that said the nation of Japan agrees with not giving babies these shots. Australia as well.

We might be fukking up our kids with vaccinations.

ive come to the conclusion that some vaccinations are good and beneficial... other vaccinations (such as the flu vaccination), are not as beneficial and can actually be harmful.

as you stated, thorough research is the key.

 

[OsO]

http://www.independencedeclaration.org/2013/02/07/human-dna-from-aborted-fetuses-are-in-vaccines/

if true... thats disgusting, immoral, and definitely not healthy

 

[88m3]

I got natural remedies for my future son

like what a coffin?

 

[Slang]

Vaccines have saved magnitudes more lives than they have ruined. FACT. Can any of you vaccine haters deny this?

A vaccine cannot save a life, as it is not medicine

 

[OneManGang]

H

A vaccine cannot save a life, as it is not medicine

What are you talking about?

 

[Slang]

H

What are you talking about?

You'd have to be suffering from some disease to treat it, which prescription drugs do. Vaccines do not and cannot cure a disease if you currently have it.